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Posted by rob thompson on 11-09-2016 12:34 PM:

and then missouri died

Now I can only pray we don't go right to work and lose everything we have worked for. I can almost guaranty the republicans will try to push it thru again. Please if you live in mo. And enjoy prevailing wage do your homework on this and look at the state's that have passed it, and their wages!

Posted by GA DAWG on 11-09-2016 12:49 PM:

It's amazing how the rest of us get by ain't it?

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Posted by Johnny Ray on 11-09-2016 01:33 PM:

Re: and then missouri died

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Now I can only pray ....

"..and then missouri died" .... so that thousands of unborn souls shall now take God's breath of life !

Posted by moleman on 11-09-2016 04:15 PM:

If the country is crumbling to the ground around you and you have no guns or no hunting and your nation is led by a baby pulling nut case with no morals,i guess its all fine and dandy as long as the union is in place and you think you have a job, Lol.

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Posted by rob thompson on 11-09-2016 06:21 PM:

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If the country is crumbling to the ground around you and you have no guns or no hunting and your nation is led by a baby pulling nut case with no morals,i guess its all fine and dandy as long as the union is in place and you think you have a job, Lol.

hahaha it gonna be led by a nut case with no morals what are you talking about.and yes cause coonhides don't pay the bills.not i dont believe in abortions but i wont tell someone the have to live by my standards either.

Posted by Adams, Harold on 11-09-2016 06:32 PM:

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Originally posted by rob thompson
hahaha it gonna be led by a nut case with no morals what are you talking about.

You do know Hillary lost?

Posted by rob thompson on 11-09-2016 08:02 PM:

Both are nuts i did vote for trump but i was talkin about state level elections. Mainly gov. We got some body who blew $700000 on an image consultant.

Posted by JHannack on 11-09-2016 10:30 PM:

Re: and then missouri died

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Originally posted by rob thompson
Now I can only pray we don't go right to work and lose everything we have worked for. I can almost guaranty the republicans will try to push it thru again. Please if you live in mo. And enjoy prevailing wage do your homework on this and look at the state's that have passed it, and their wages!

Have you researched what the right to work law is yourself? Don't believe your union reps as they need you to pay their wage! Do the union BA's and representatives care about you or care about you continuing to pay their wage. Do they have the same benefits that you do or is theirs better, like 2 pensions? I'm not trying to stir the pot, I want to make sure you have all the facts. I am a tradesmen and have worked both union and non but the vast majority union. I look at the union like another form of government. A bunch of folks telling you what you should do and what's best for you but really looking out for themselves. Who has more to lose? I don't worry about it, I know how to work and will do what it takes to provide for my family. Can you say that about all the people you work with and the ones representing the unions?
Hope all goes well, take care.

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 11-09-2016 11:07 PM:

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i wont tell someone the have to live by my standards either.

Except for wages and benefits?

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Posted by rob thompson on 11-09-2016 11:23 PM:

That is negotiated with a negotiating committee and the employer and both agree before signing a contract. I hear all this talk about less government and they need to stay out of the way but the same people that say that want government to intervene in collective bargaining, and other issues the government has no business being involved in, but folks want to force their religions beliefs on others so they just go ahead and do it. It's a two way street folks if we are gonna be a free country then we need to be free if we aren't then we aren't.

Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-09-2016 11:23 PM:

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Originally posted by rob thompson
Both are nuts i did vote for trump but i was talkin about state level elections. Mainly gov. We got some body who blew $700000 on an image consultant.

i agree i voted trump over hillary because she is the most corupt person to run for president she's anti gun if she was elected you have 4 more yrs of oboma but probly much worse she would just take over where he left off trying to be a dictator telling us what we can and cannot do jmo

Posted by rob thompson on 11-09-2016 11:26 PM:

They are still gonna tell the other half of the country what they can and can't do don't kid yourself.

Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 11-10-2016 03:13 AM:

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Originally posted by rob thompson
That is negotiated with a negotiating committee and the employer and both agree before signing a contract. I hear all this talk about less government and they need to stay out of the way but the same people that say that want government to intervene in collective bargaining, and other issues the government has no business being involved in, but folks want to force their religions beliefs on others so they just go ahead and do it. It's a two way street folks if we are gonna be a free country then we need to be free if we aren't then we aren't.

Rob, I was simply showing how your speaking up on behalf of unions as being the better way to engage in the employer/employee relationship is the exact same mindset as someone declaring that abortion is wrong way to handle the parent/child relationship. It is the same philosophy, (one idea is superior to the other), just separate subjects.

As far as ideas on the size and scope of government, government does need to be involved in certain things and also to stay out of certain things. The way to decide those things in America is to read, understand, and follow the Constitution. And yes, laws do force certain beliefs on society as all laws indicate that certain things are right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable.

Liberty isn't the freedom to do wrong, but the freedom to do right. Anything past that is anarchy.

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