UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- Trapping coon for training purposes. (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928401926)

Trapping coon for training purposes.

This topic may have been brought up before, but I haven't found the thread.

Being that coon hides have little value this season, I find more value in them alive for my training purposes. In the past, I've caught coon in live traps and turned them loose in front of.young dogs. I have also caught coon in 1 1/2 size steel leghold traps for training purposes too. I would carry a five gallon bucket with me on the trapline, place the five gallon bucket over the trapped coon, release his leg from the trap and then carefully put the lid on the bucket for transport. This worked good because I could set a lot more traps than the standard live box traps and had lesser chance of theft with my steel traps.

The only downside was injury to the coon when using the steel traps. Now the trapping world has a "dog proof" trap. These traps have been around a few years, but I have never used them. I've watched some video of these traps in action and noticed a lot of the volume trappers releasing the smaller coons they catch out of these traps without injury to the coon. I'm thinking these traps would be perfect for catching live coon, but I haven't ran into anyone in the hound world using these traps to catch live coon for training. These traps are $12 each and I can haul two hundred of them in the back of my truck compared to about a dozen live traps in the same space.

So I am asking if anyone has used these traps to catch their coon alive for training purposes or for stocking their hunting spots with coon? Let the responses begin

__________________
Freddy Wells
Plus Point English
Mounds, Oklahoma

Home of:
UKC DUAL GR CH PKC CH CHKC Money Winner ALL GRAND YOGI (GR NITE CH MOORE'S HARDTIME ALL GRAND HORN x DUAL GR CH ENGLISHPRIDE'S LITTLE LIZ) 2017 UKC Performance and PKC Super Stakes Sire

UKC DUAL GR CH TREE ROCKN NELLY (DUAL GR CH PKC GOLD CH MAIN STREET ROY X GR NITE CH PKC CH INDIAN RIDGE CINDY) Littermate sister to 2013 UKC WORLD CH GR NITE CH MAIN STREET JOHN THE BAPTIST

PLUS POINT ZINGO (DUAL GRAND CH '98 ENGLISH HALL OF FAME WILCOX THUNDER BINGO semen X CH NITE CH CLONES FRONT PAGE) The only living direct son of Bingo alive today!

Gone but not forgotten:

UKC GR NITE CH PKC CH PLUS POINT BLUE BOY BRUISER (66 "canes" stored at OnceFrozen) Direct son of DUAL GR CH PKC CH CLEAR CREEK CADILLAC JACK x CH GR NITE CH '95 UKC World Hunt High Scoring English Female WELLS' LITTLE PATCH

CH GR NITE CH WELLS' LITTLE PATCH (High Scoring English Female 1995 UKC World Hunt) Direct Daughter of GR NITE CH PKC GOLD CH DARON'S BLUE REB (LUMIS) x GR NITE CH PKC GOLD CH ACHA WORLD CH BUFFALO CREEK PATCH

GR NITE CH PKC CH CLEAR CREEK MISSY II (Sister to Dual Grand Clear Creek Cadillac Jack and mother of ACHA World Champion PKC Silver CH Raef's Dollar Bill)

Whoes coon abel to breethe in bukket with lids on.? Thanks. Amos G.

__________________
blue are true

quote:

---

Originally posted by jockobluetick
Whoes coon abel to breethe in bukket with lids on.? Thanks. Amos G.

---

__________________
Freddy Wells
Plus Point English
Mounds, Oklahoma

Home of:
UKC DUAL GR CH PKC CH CHKC Money Winner ALL GRAND YOGI (GR NITE CH MOORE'S HARDTIME ALL GRAND HORN x DUAL GR CH ENGLISHPRIDE'S LITTLE LIZ) 2017 UKC Performance and PKC Super Stakes Sire

UKC DUAL GR CH TREE ROCKN NELLY (DUAL GR CH PKC GOLD CH MAIN STREET ROY X GR NITE CH PKC CH INDIAN RIDGE CINDY) Littermate sister to 2013 UKC WORLD CH GR NITE CH MAIN STREET JOHN THE BAPTIST

PLUS POINT ZINGO (DUAL GRAND CH '98 ENGLISH HALL OF FAME WILCOX THUNDER BINGO semen X CH NITE CH CLONES FRONT PAGE) The only living direct son of Bingo alive today!

Gone but not forgotten:

UKC GR NITE CH PKC CH PLUS POINT BLUE BOY BRUISER (66 "canes" stored at OnceFrozen) Direct son of DUAL GR CH PKC CH CLEAR CREEK CADILLAC JACK x CH GR NITE CH '95 UKC World Hunt High Scoring English Female WELLS' LITTLE PATCH

CH GR NITE CH WELLS' LITTLE PATCH (High Scoring English Female 1995 UKC World Hunt) Direct Daughter of GR NITE CH PKC GOLD CH DARON'S BLUE REB (LUMIS) x GR NITE CH PKC GOLD CH ACHA WORLD CH BUFFALO CREEK PATCH

GR NITE CH PKC CH CLEAR CREEK MISSY II (Sister to Dual Grand Clear Creek Cadillac Jack and mother of ACHA World Champion PKC Silver CH Raef's Dollar Bill)

over the years I have done as much or more trapping as I have coon hunting...and I like the dog proof traps.

I used them almost exclusively in damage control trapping for several years, mostly because the chance of catching "off game" in them is pretty much nil.

damage is almost none, though with 1 1/2 coil or longsprings there shouldn't be much or any either if they are checked regular and there isn't a lot of trash (brush ect) around to get tangled in. tip there, use drags (I use old smallish hedge posts or similar "log" drags myself) instead of staking down solid.

all in all though if coon and coon alone are the only target, the dog proof traps are pretty much impossible to beat.

__________________
when policemen ignore the law, then there isn't any law. there's just a fight for survival.

*billy jack

It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it.

Robert E. Lee

Dog Proof (DP)

We have used DP traps this year for training purposes. We used my brother in laws Long Pole to snare the coon and transport it.

We currently have a bunch of them set..... just waiting for the next opportunity.

It worked very well.

__________________
Boone Valley English
New Home for the "Friday Night Hounds"

Ch Gr.Nt Ch 2 Briar Creek Blue Sue HTX.
Pr. Oakwoods Friday Night Flash







R.I.P Gone But Not Forgotten

Gr.Ch. Gr. Nt. Ch. Deepwoods Tree Chopin Grizzly~ Direct Son of Timber Valley Triple X
Co-owned with Shane Glen
2017 Iowa State PKC State Hunt Open Event Final 4
2018 Cast Winner at the Winter Classic
2018 Cast Winner at English Days
2019 PKC Alabama Pro Classic Final 4 Split
2019 PKC Alabama Legacy Cast $$$ winner
2019 UKC Alabama State Hunt final four
2019 UKC ENGLISH DAYS 2nd Grand Night
2019 PKC IOWA LEGACY Cast Winner
2019 UKC World Qualified

Ch. Nt. Ch. Tracy's Moonlight Dottie

Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch Pine Knob Durango
( "Sire of : Timber Valley Queen, Timber Valley Ten, Timber Valley Joe, Boughton's Red Ruby, & Timber Valley Anny)

Gr.Nt. Ch Ch Timber Valley Anny (Durango x Lucky)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch Timber Valley Joe (Durango x Lucky) & ( SEMEN STORED AT IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY)

Gr.Ch Nt. Ch Timber Valley Wendy ( Lambertson's Coin X Thurber's Blue Bell)

Nt. Ch Thunder Suzie(83 National Grand Night Ch English Gr. Nt .Ch Gr. CH Wilox' Thunder JR X Gr. NT. Ch Woodstocks Polly)

Chip Wisecup (515) 351-7754

[www.fridaynightkennels.wixsite.com/fridaynightkennels]

Yep DP traps and a snare pole is what I use when I trap em.

Coon don't seem to fight dp's like they do a regular foot hold trap.

__________________
"If I can't have the whole dog,,,I don't want the tail"

Well they can't chew their feet and toes off with a DP trap. That's the bad thing they do with a foot hold.

I've used dog proofs for several years now and must say that they have quickly become my go to coon trap.

They work excellent for live trapping IF they're set right.

I'd suggest using rebar or disposable stakes for anchoring arms length from trees, roots, rocks, anything the coon can tangle in or grab for leverage. This will almost eliminate foot damage/ broken legs.

Many people cable of to trees/ fences which works but binds up the swivels an causes for damage, pull outs etc.

Freddy, you might want to check with the game warden to see if there are any restrictions on trapping coon for training purposes. I know trapping in season and out of season are different, local guy paid $500 fine this summer. Its just a suggestion, there might be a difference in live traps and leg holds, etc. Just a thought, might save you a fine. Good Hunting. Tom

__________________
Home of:
NTCH Honky Tonk Joe
GRNTCH The Duke
Dual GRNTCH Wendy
GRNTCH Cola
GrNtCH Honky Tonk Rock and Roll
Dual GRCH Bumper
Dual CH June
Dual CH Jill