UKC Forums
Show all 19 posts from this thread on one page

UKC Forums (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/index.php)
- UKC Coonhounds (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4)
-- Why is this? (http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthread.php?threadid=928256771)


Posted by Brandon Coselman on 07-09-2012 12:05 AM:

Why is this?

Why do the people that hardly have any success in this sport always whine and cry about the people that do have success cheating and such...? Kinda funny if ya ask me...

__________________
Brandon & Rebecca Coselman
North Bend Puppy Pen
(989) 506-0169

Home of: 2017 Grand Masters Invitational Champion, 2016 & 2017 Michigan PKC State Champion HOF PCH GRNITECH Mr Clean's Snooki
&
2022 Senior SS Reserve Champion PCH GRNITECH Snooki's Jwoww


Posted by JiM on 07-09-2012 12:15 AM:

It has always been that way in every sport. Human nature I guess.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.


Posted by J.R on 07-09-2012 02:12 AM:

lol


Posted by Joe S. on 07-09-2012 02:34 AM:

cause they losers.....

__________________
Never Know Till Ya See It Go~ Joe Schmidtfranz Call If Ya Need Me 989 723 6989 NiteCh Old Hickoys Bad Moon Risin
WldCh Mr.Smith x GrNite Buck Creek Sing


Posted by Cody Carroll on 07-09-2012 02:59 AM:

Jealousy brings out the worst in people

__________________
Cody Carroll
(757) 755-5820

proud member of the United States Navy Submarine Force

Former home of:
GRNITECH GRCH 'PR' Hardwood Ontime Abby


Posted by COYOTEHOUND on 07-09-2012 11:21 AM:

DEFINE SUCCESS!!


Posted by smokin-1-mo on 07-09-2012 12:23 PM:

JUST REMEMBER IF THERE TALKIN ABOUT YOU,YOUR STILL WINNING...JIM IS RIGHT THATS THE WAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THEY NEVER LOOSE ALWAYS GET CHEATED....


Posted by cj. on 07-09-2012 01:37 PM:

most of the so called cheating that goes on.... is from lack of knowledge of the rules in my opinion. People dont know the rules, or dont like the rules, and sometimes even disagree with the rules, so they call foul.

__________________
Joey Sexton
810-422-3352


Posted by CGRADR07 on 07-09-2012 05:15 PM:

I think everyone has a different interpretation of the rules. It is kind of like when you go to church. I have went to many different ones in my life and seems like the preachers all interpreted the bible in a different way. When someone interprets something one way then they feel cheated. Anytime there are rules someone always sees it another way. Myself I really do not care. I enjoy competition hunting more so than pleasure hunting but if someone wants to get upset about a rule that they think means different than what I do me and the ol dog go home mainly b/c it ain't worth getting mad or in a fight over.

__________________
Calvin Romans

CH ‘PR’ Mafia’s Double Dose


Posted by micooner on 07-09-2012 05:22 PM:

just keep winning and let the dogs do the work and talking for you LOL


Posted by JiM on 07-09-2012 05:23 PM:

I don't get the feeling that is what Brandon is talking about.
I'm purty low level in this sport compared to where Brandon is at and even I run into those who never succeed mostly because they won't work at it enough and don't put much effort into it but they will continually claim anyone who DOES have a little success is getting it by cheating or any way other than simply earning it. I have never paid any attention to them and it seems almost no one else does either.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.


Posted by Brandon Coselman on 07-09-2012 05:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cj.
most of the so called cheating that goes on.... is from lack of knowledge of the rules in my opinion. People dont know the rules, or dont like the rules, and sometimes even disagree with the rules, so they call foul.

Joey i believe you just about hit the nail on the head right there...

__________________
Brandon & Rebecca Coselman
North Bend Puppy Pen
(989) 506-0169

Home of: 2017 Grand Masters Invitational Champion, 2016 & 2017 Michigan PKC State Champion HOF PCH GRNITECH Mr Clean's Snooki
&
2022 Senior SS Reserve Champion PCH GRNITECH Snooki's Jwoww


Posted by Brandon Coselman on 07-09-2012 05:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I don't get the feeling that is what Brandon is talking about.
I'm purty low level in this sport compared to where Brandon is at and even I run into those who never succeed mostly because they won't work at it enough and don't put much effort into it but they will continually claim anyone who DOES have a little success is getting it by cheating or any way other than simply earning it. I have never paid any attention to them and it seems almost no one else does either.



Jim you have done plenty in this sport!!! And im not talkin about just me here im talkin bout lots of different people... But something i have noticed is you hardly get any bitching and whining of people gettin cheated in PKC (unless its local ukc hunter) but its awful hard to go to a UKC hunt anywhere and not hear people talkin about how they got cheated or whatever... I just dnt understand how someone can cheat someone else, learn the rules and how to use them and its impossible to get cheated in my opinion!

And yes Jim i believe your absolutely right about the people that are not willing to put the time in... Most people have no idea how much time it takes spent in the woods to make a real winner and all the blood, sweat and tears lol

__________________
Brandon & Rebecca Coselman
North Bend Puppy Pen
(989) 506-0169

Home of: 2017 Grand Masters Invitational Champion, 2016 & 2017 Michigan PKC State Champion HOF PCH GRNITECH Mr Clean's Snooki
&
2022 Senior SS Reserve Champion PCH GRNITECH Snooki's Jwoww


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-09-2012 05:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HardcoreKennels
JI just dnt understand how someone can cheat someone else, learn the rules and how to use them and its impossible to get cheated in my opinion lol
what a statement. Remember this Brandon. Whenever you have the judge equally in line to win at something there will be foul play. Always? No but many times. I can type countless ways you can be cheated in a cast. I don't have the time nor gumption to do so. The rules are in place sure but they are usless if you dont have honest men to follow them.

__________________
Grand Nite Ch PKC CH(3) Main Street Blueberry Jam(Autumn Oaks Final 4 Grand Nite Ch 2015) UKC world finalist 2017 Ohio State Ch 2018
Grand Nite Ch(4) PKC Silver CH Main Street Blue SS quarterfinalist 2018. Autumn Oaks Grand 16 2018. Senior Showdown semifinalists 2020. UKC top 25 World hunt 2020. PKC quarterfinalist 2020
Grand Nite Ch HOF PKC Silver Ch Heatseaker Unleash the Kraken(Grand at 15 months old) BBOA Overall 1st place X2, Tournament of Champions Finalist, National Bluetic Days overall winner, Autumn Oaks Grand 16x2 PKC SS Semi Finalist PKC State Hunt Final 4 UKC World Top 20
GRNT CH BLUES AMAZING GRACE
Trevor Hack
567-231-7413


Posted by Brandon Coselman on 07-09-2012 05:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
what a statement. Remember this Brandon. Whenever you have the judge equally in line to win at something there will be foul play. Always? No but many times. I can type countless ways you can be cheated in a cast. I don't have the time nor gumption to do so. The rules are in place sure but they are usless if you dont have honest men to follow them.


I just dnt buy that... and if your gonna quote something dont edit it to look better for yourself, bcuz the what you quoted isnt entirely what i wrote... There some parts missing and a couple one extra part that i can see you added...

__________________
Brandon & Rebecca Coselman
North Bend Puppy Pen
(989) 506-0169

Home of: 2017 Grand Masters Invitational Champion, 2016 & 2017 Michigan PKC State Champion HOF PCH GRNITECH Mr Clean's Snooki
&
2022 Senior SS Reserve Champion PCH GRNITECH Snooki's Jwoww


Posted by JiM on 07-09-2012 06:03 PM:

I get over a cheater real fast, maybe too fast. On the the hand, the joy I get out of watching my dog beat someone who is really hardcore.....like say Brandon Coselman for instance......stays with me forever.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.


Posted by Brandon Coselman on 07-09-2012 06:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I get over a cheater real fast, maybe too fast. On the the hand, the joy I get out of watching my dog beat someone who is really hardcore.....like say Brandon Coselman for instance......stays with me forever.


If your tryin to say somethin Jim come out and say it...

__________________
Brandon & Rebecca Coselman
North Bend Puppy Pen
(989) 506-0169

Home of: 2017 Grand Masters Invitational Champion, 2016 & 2017 Michigan PKC State Champion HOF PCH GRNITECH Mr Clean's Snooki
&
2022 Senior SS Reserve Champion PCH GRNITECH Snooki's Jwoww


Posted by JiM on 07-09-2012 06:16 PM:

Just this Brandon, getting hosed doesn't stay with me very long, winning against good dogs does. I don't even remember the last time I got cheated in a hunt. I member all the times my dog beat a good dog.

__________________
UKC Nite Champion Stylish Harry's Trixie - 2017 World Hunt Qualified - Owners - Sizemore/Martin
PKC CH/UKC GrNtCh Stylish Kate - 9/12/08 to 9/23/2016 R.I.P - Owners Sizemore/Martin
AKC/UKC NtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jeff 5/2/2000 to 1/22/2012 R.I.P.
AKC/UKC GrNtCh Sizemore's Timber Jam Jessi 12/21/04 to 1/21/2011 R.I.P.


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-09-2012 06:33 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
Just this Brandon, getting hosed doesn't stay with me very long, winning against good dogs does. I don't even remember the last time I got cheated in a hunt. I member all the times my dog beat a good dog.
who doesn't? Lol

__________________
Grand Nite Ch PKC CH(3) Main Street Blueberry Jam(Autumn Oaks Final 4 Grand Nite Ch 2015) UKC world finalist 2017 Ohio State Ch 2018
Grand Nite Ch(4) PKC Silver CH Main Street Blue SS quarterfinalist 2018. Autumn Oaks Grand 16 2018. Senior Showdown semifinalists 2020. UKC top 25 World hunt 2020. PKC quarterfinalist 2020
Grand Nite Ch HOF PKC Silver Ch Heatseaker Unleash the Kraken(Grand at 15 months old) BBOA Overall 1st place X2, Tournament of Champions Finalist, National Bluetic Days overall winner, Autumn Oaks Grand 16x2 PKC SS Semi Finalist PKC State Hunt Final 4 UKC World Top 20
GRNT CH BLUES AMAZING GRACE
Trevor Hack
567-231-7413


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:51 PM.
Show all 19 posts from this thread on one page

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.3.0
Copyright © Jelsoft Enterprises Limited 2000 - 2002.
Copyright 2003-2020, United Kennel Club