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Posted by tarriverwalkers on 03-19-2012 03:12 AM:

Mr clean wins again

he has done it again

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Posted by Nelson Kirkland on 03-19-2012 03:47 AM:

What can you say? He has to be a great one.

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Posted by WVHunter304 on 03-19-2012 03:57 AM:

Boy this dog is on a roll. Glad me and my buddy just had 10 Mr. Clean Pups 4 days ago out of his NiteCh and PKC Ch. I cant wait for mine to grow up.

Posted by tarriverwalkers on 03-19-2012 04:12 AM:

i have.2 female the.olds.one has.2best in.shows.an she has a first an a 5th

Posted by wildbill on 03-19-2012 09:23 PM:

Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by tarriverwalkers
he has done it again

won what again???

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Posted by Jim Hill on 03-19-2012 11:00 PM:

Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
won what again???

thats what i was wondering

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Posted by Nelson Kirkland on 03-19-2012 11:03 PM:

The Purina Nationals.

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Posted by David Gardin on 03-20-2012 11:04 PM:

I SEEN HIM

WIN THE WORLD HUNT AND THE NATIONALS AS RICKS QUOTE YOU CANT BET A MACHINE YHAT IS A COON TREEING MACHINE MY HAT IS OFF TO BRIAN HE WILL ENTER HIM IN A HUNT AND LET HIM SPEEK FOR HIM SELF CONGTS TO YOU AND CLEAN

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Posted by jimmy rutledge on 03-20-2012 11:26 PM:

what was his score?

Posted by David Gardin on 03-20-2012 11:35 PM:

450+ 0 MINUS

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Posted by Harry Plotter on 03-21-2012 05:17 AM:

Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
won what again???

you and hill live under a rock. he done it again. mr. clean done showed em what a real live coondog does again at the big hunts. they win by treeing the most real live coons. not by slick handlin or bending the rules.

Posted by wildbill on 03-21-2012 07:06 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by Harry Plotter
you and hill live under a rock. he done it again. mr. clean done showed em what a real live coondog does again at the big hunts. they win by treeing the most real live coons. not by slick handlin or bending the rules.

thats good that a real coondog is the latest weekend wonder..
some of us got better things to do than keep up on who is the latest weekend wonder...

from what i seen of his ped. ,,he's bred to tree coon..

looks like all the dog traders will be takeing all their brood sows to him like they did lipper so they can make $500-$1000 off them puppys like they are starting ask for them now,,

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Posted by JiM on 03-21-2012 01:25 PM:

I happened to be at Nevergone last Monday where all the Mr Clean semen is stored and there were 3 van loads of people there with a bunch of Bull Mastiffs. Some were being collected, some were being AI'ed. You don't even wanna know what they get for pups off those things , unless you are sitting down first.

People love to grouse about things that don't effect them. My bet is Wild Bill has never and will never buy a Clean pup at any price and wouldn't buy one for 5 dollars any quicker than he'd buy one for $1000. But still he gotta toss out his dog traders getting rich comment.

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Posted by Enigma on 03-21-2012 02:35 PM:

Where are the prime locations to get rich dog trading????
Sounds like a career for me!

Last bunch of pups I raised I could barely give away. Out of a titled female and well known stud.

How old is Clean?

Posted by Jason Reisert on 03-21-2012 04:35 PM:

CLEAN

You've all heard this before, but that little black and white sucker is REAL!!! I finally drew him, and there is no hype on this dog. Everything I heard is true, and maybe even a little understated. Congratulations Brian and Clean. Good luck in AURORA.

Posted by wildbill on 03-21-2012 06:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I happened to be at Nevergone last Monday where all the Mr Clean semen is stored and there were 3 van loads of people there with a bunch of Bull Mastiffs. Some were being collected, some were being AI'ed. You don't even wanna know what they get for pups off those things , unless you are sitting down first.

People love to grouse about things that don't effect them. My bet is Wild Bill has never and will never buy a Clean pup at any price and wouldn't buy one for 5 dollars any quicker than he'd buy one for $1000. But still he gotta toss out his dog traders getting rich comment.

bull mastiffs,,if i remember right they sell for more than most people will pay for a full trained coondog..

as for me buying/feeding a clean pup,not going to happen ,,
not that i dont think he's a coondog,he's done proved he is a COONDOG,,
i dont like some of the dogs back in his ped.and dont think they would line up with what i breed for...
i could have bred to cleans daddy long before anybody ever heard of him ,but just not the right ped for my program.

as for throwing coondogs ,like anyother stud bred to the right females will produce better dogs,

as for dog traders getting rich,i guess i should said temp rich,
till they breed so many broodsows and clean gets a bad rap like the other studs that took the same heat cause of the inferior females that were bred to them ,
just in the name of selling puppys...

hope they screen the females bred to him ,so that dont happen,
only time will tell..
best of luck to clean and owners

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Posted by kevin housley on 03-22-2012 03:57 AM:

clean

didnt he also win autumn oaks i sure would like to go to the woods with him. he has won everything nearly i think he won the akc world to. i will be breeding my sow to him you bet i love to competition hunt and would like to win the only way to get a good pup is try different crosses and get lucky. maybe you should try some clean in your breedin program willy you might get famous like brian

Posted by kevin housley on 03-22-2012 04:01 AM:

clean

i wish they would go for the pkc nationals now that would be awesome if they won that it would prove him to be the best. what kind of mouth does clean have

Posted by Southern Coondog on 03-22-2012 04:02 AM:

I drew him last year at the Indiana state hunt and he was very impressive. He got gone got struck and got treed with a Coon every drop.

Posted by Harry Plotter on 03-22-2012 05:00 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
thats good that a real coondog is the latest weekend wonder..
some of us got better things to do than keep up on who is the latest weekend wonder...

from what i seen of his ped. ,,he's bred to tree coon..

looks like all the dog traders will be takeing all their brood sows to him like they did lipper so they can make $500-$1000 off them puppys like they are starting ask for them now,,

well i guess if you troll message boards its pretty easy to keep up with the latest weekend wonders. i guess you are another one of those breeders who has his own line. linebreeds because its faux pas not to. pretty hard for me to understand how you can tell you wouldn't want him in your breeding program without hunting with him or his offspring and just by his pedigree. and if he's a real reproducer he will be able to cover some of those brood sows. i like the dog but expect him to reproduce about normal. it would be great for the breed if he was a freak reproducer and could carry a bunch a worthless gyps. he sure as heck ain't gonna hurt the walker dogs a bit by mr. whitted trying to pass cleans traits on to the next generation.

Posted by wildbill on 03-22-2012 08:46 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by Harry Plotter
well i guess if you troll message boards its pretty easy to keep up with the latest weekend wonders. i guess you are another one of those breeders who has his own line. linebreeds because its faux pas not to. pretty hard for me to understand how you can tell you wouldn't want him in your breeding program without hunting with him or his offspring and just by his pedigree. and if he's a real reproducer he will be able to cover some of those brood sows. i like the dog but expect him to reproduce about normal. it would be great for the breed if he was a freak reproducer and could carry a bunch a worthless gyps. he sure as heck ain't gonna hurt the walker dogs a bit by mr. whitted trying to pass cleans traits on to the next generation.

sorry but i dont troll the boards to see who is the latest wonder.
and i dont breed title to title,,
i breed for natural coondogs,after feeding/breeding/hunting these walkers since the early 70's,i have seen enough to know what peds to stay away from with my program..i linebreed on what works for me,not what some clic likes...and it works so far..

i dont have the money or the time to waste on the hunts like i used to ,but if you ever see me sign a dog up in a hunt again,u can bet your last dollar i came with something to win ,not to have fun..

from what people been saying about clean ,sounds like he's like macks little joe was,,
he made treeing coon look easy and didnt waste time doing it..
another overlooked coondog in the breeding pen..

as you say i hope clean is able to pass his traits on to them sows and improve the walker breed as we know it needs the help with all the damage that has been done with the puppymills breeding to the every flavor of the month .

as for my program,it works for me ,it dont need any more skeltons from some outcross's that might throw a monkeywrench into things..

good luck with whatever you are feeding.

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Posted by thebigcat454545 on 03-22-2012 02:08 PM:

Mr. Clean is one bad hound. wow....doesn't shock me!! Congrats!!

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Posted by Harry Plotter on 03-23-2012 05:52 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
sorry but i dont troll the boards to see who is the latest wonder.
and i dont breed title to title,,
i breed for natural coondogs,after feeding/breeding/hunting these walkers since the early 70's,i have seen enough to know what peds to stay away from with my program..i linebreed on what works for me,not what some clic likes...and it works so far..

i dont have the money or the time to waste on the hunts like i used to ,but if you ever see me sign a dog up in a hunt again,u can bet your last dollar i came with something to win ,not to have fun..

from what people been saying about clean ,sounds like he's like macks little joe was,,
he made treeing coon look easy and didnt waste time doing it..
another overlooked coondog in the breeding pen..

as you say i hope clean is able to pass his traits on to them sows and improve the walker breed as we know it needs the help with all the damage that has been done with the puppymills breeding to the every flavor of the month .

as for my program,it works for me ,it dont need any more skeltons from some outcross's that might throw a monkeywrench into things..

good luck with whatever you are feeding.

i can respect an honest answer. too many folks beat around the bush and back talk. i may not agree with you. but you sound pretty dedicated to what you want to do. good luck.

Posted by thebigcat454545 on 03-23-2012 10:50 AM:

Clean is a perfect exaple of what guys are breeding to...papers! if they wanted to breed to a coon dog he should be booked up for next 2 yrs. I dont have a clean pup yet either, I dont have room right now but i gotta wonder....how can i make room for one. I dont keep up with pedigrees and wins like I should mainly because im fairly new but this dog is getting mojo type wins. there 2 of the most wining dogs ive seen and we all know how mojo reproduces.

Posted by wildbill on 03-23-2012 07:24 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr clean wins again

quote:
Originally posted by Harry Plotter
i can respect an honest answer. too many folks beat around the bush and back talk. i may not agree with you. but you sound pretty dedicated to what you want to do. good luck.

thanks,,heres a sample of what i been doing with my program.
this female is around 11 now and run track and treed with the old dog first time at 7 months old and had to bulldog her to catch here off the tree,she wouldnt leave or be called off when we lead the old dog off..

her grandmother(samatha) on bottom was taken out with the old dogs just for exercize at 4 1/2 months old and showed the old dogs where the coon went to that they were wallering around at the creek,they were the old track blood type dogs that had too much track in them,,dont have any of it anymore,TOO MUCH TRACK ,lol

this is what works for me..

...........gr.nite house lawyer-lipper-house clint
......gr.nite cook's raider
...........nt.ch.russell's spr.crk.dixie (spring creek rock i think)
.gr.nite Ingrams's hi-tec askum
...........nt.ch.bates'house cobra-h.cruz-house clint
......nt.ch.hanners gold dust
...........duncan's little penny...house jay(h.clint) X daughter of S.C.rock

saylor's fullhouse 2 toes(princess)

...........gr.nite guess deanwood drifter-h.clint
.......gr.nite welch's drifting floyd
...........lippers renegade lady-lipper
.saylors fullhouse hazel
...........gr.nite conger's lawtoo-h.lawyer
.......saylor's cruzen samatha
...........house's cruz brandy-h.cruz-h.clint

added this young male to my collection,in the hands of a nitehunter he couldda had been titled out long ago ,but dont see that happening while i have him.

........................grnitech'pr'hardwood patch
................grnitech'pr'laurel ck stylish bozo
........................nitech'pr'dolly's stylish queen
.......nitech'pr'mc coy's stylish bam bam
........................grnitech'pr'hard knockin stylish hayes
................nitech'pr'dendy's stylish millie
........................'pr'stylish annie
'pr'delta's stylish prince-1-6-2009
........................grnitech grch'pr'house's lipper
................grch grnitech'pr'lippers stylish rank
........................nitech'pr'stylish dolly
.......'pr'stylish queen
........................ch grnitech'pr'guess'hardwood maniac
................ch'pr'coal creek selena
........................'pr'finley river polly

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