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Posted by Matt McKinney on 02-08-2012 02:33 AM:

cloning a dog

Do any of you think it will ever happen in the coon hunting world?

Posted by Jonathan Crump on 02-08-2012 02:45 AM:

But if it ever does I know where I'll be with the shovel though.

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Posted by jackbob42 on 02-08-2012 05:22 AM:

I'd sure like to see it happen , but I think most coonhunters are too cheap to try it. LOL

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 02-08-2012 05:31 AM:

WHAT GOOD WOULD IT DO??? YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DUPLICATE THE GENETIC MATERIAL, BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO EXACTLY REPRODUCE THE TRAINING, RAISING, ENVIRONMENT, EXPERIENCES, ETC. THAT MADE A PARTICULAR DOG GREAT!!!

Posted by greatlakehunter on 02-08-2012 05:48 AM:

?????

seen on news the other day lady had her dog cloned she went to europe to have it done cost 50,000 not counting travel

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Posted by l.lyle on 02-08-2012 06:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
WHAT GOOD WOULD IT DO??? YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DUPLICATE THE GENETIC MATERIAL, BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO EXACTLY REPRODUCE THE TRAINING, RAISING, ENVIRONMENT, EXPERIENCES, ETC. THAT MADE A PARTICULAR DOG GREAT!!!

Yep and the clone might have had you stop by the store to get a sodie pop. Therefore you arrived ten minutes late to a destiny. But this time the coon has the ten minute advantage and makes it home, BOO HOO. Such is the difference in one on the inside and one on the outside. LOL Clone the coon to be ten ninutes slower might wuks doe . Let's try dat'n dere.// YEEEE HAAAW.

I gotta dawg nama Skuse!
come on fellows, hep me, i got a time frame I bees wuking gainst to compose some words of whhhissdum foe de nex lection, aint dat contradictery to realive thought patterns?? Yee Haw!! Neeedin a rhyme in time so to speacks , I gotta dawg named Skuse. Come on back. Hep me. And he also , I done a name him a scuse , but it aint be catchn on wid dem dere babies nama ''Jose'" bunches 'ses ubba dem;, but i done goneahead Anna mama one Skuse, like sticking a toe in de warrter so to speacks> Got plenty of rymes faw my liitle song starts with a P , not looking faw datn't no mo . Might be looking faw a rhyme dat starts wit ph a or a rhy maybe eben EX ,to gets right wid Skuse . My Dog Skuse.

Posted by starplott on 02-08-2012 08:49 AM:

How would you begin to register such a thing?

I'd love to clone my Malinois male. Get it down to $10k and that is just about in my ball park. Wouldn't wait till he was dead though.

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Posted by Joeslater on 02-08-2012 10:06 AM:

didnt russ bellar clone whats up doc? i think the whats up fred dog was the result but i may be wrong

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 02-08-2012 12:45 PM:

Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Posted by jackbob42 on 02-08-2012 02:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
WHAT GOOD WOULD IT DO??? YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DUPLICATE THE GENETIC MATERIAL, BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO EXACTLY REPRODUCE THE TRAINING, RAISING, ENVIRONMENT, EXPERIENCES, ETC. THAT MADE A PARTICULAR DOG GREAT!!!

Well , #1 , of the two dogs I've personally owned that I'd like to see cloned , I'd like to think I am a little better trainer now than I was back then.
#2 , It'd be nice to know that the pup I was working with had all the right tools it needed.
And , #3 , even if the training , raisng , environment , etc. weren't exactly the same , how do you know that the clone wouldn't actually turn out better?
This stuff about everything having to be "exactly" the same is just a guess. Heck , I (and everybody else) may have done something to hold the original back from being even better than it was!
I always love it when folks think they know about something they've never tried before. LOL

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Posted by Hey Preacher!!! on 02-08-2012 07:37 PM:

YOU BEING A BETTER TRAINER, RECOGNIZING WHETHER A PUP HAS POTENTIAL TOOLS, HOLDING BACK TRUE POTENTIAL IN A DOG, I'D SAY THESE ARE THE TRUE GUESSES!!! CALL THAT PERSON THAT WENT TO EUROPE AND SPENT ALL THAT MONEY TO CLONE 'LITTLE WHAT'S HIS NAME' AND SEE IF THEY HAD ANY SUCESS CLONING 'PERSONALITY', PROBABLY NOT, CONSIDERING PERSONALITY IS NOT GENETIC MATERIAL!!! I KNOW, I KNOW, MORE GUESSES FROM SOMEONE WHO HASN'T TRIED IT!!!

Posted by john Duemmer on 02-08-2012 08:59 PM:

Id really like to see it happen. Think it would be a real eye opener for the guys that take all the credit for makin and training a dog.

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Posted by Jonathan Crump on 02-08-2012 09:59 PM:

Above I was joking

I really would not even consider it myself because cloning is man being GOD.

Posted by starplott on 02-08-2012 10:40 PM:

I just don't get how the one gal on her way to prison was able to afford to clone the pit...

Guess she had to spend all her $ some way before spending 7 yrs in prison. That's 7 years somebody else is raising the dog. I about fell over when she got a visit allowed with the dog in jail!

And to think what's his name & wife sued over ownership of his sperm while he was in prison! Then we have the guy that just legally adopted his 30 ish girlfriend to protect his $ since they can't take away $ set to go to kids.

What is this world coming to? That is a lot of $ wasted that would pay a lot of past mortgages or feed a lot of kids for a few months.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 02-08-2012 10:46 PM:

Re: Above I was joking

I agree with you about that..I just wanted to see what everyone elses input was.

quote:
Originally posted by Jonathan Crump
I really would not even consider it myself because cloning is man being GOD.

Posted by jackbob42 on 02-08-2012 10:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hey Preacher!!!
YOU BEING A BETTER TRAINER, RECOGNIZING WHETHER A PUP HAS POTENTIAL TOOLS, HOLDING BACK TRUE POTENTIAL IN A DOG, I'D SAY THESE ARE THE TRUE GUESSES!!!

Well , I'd like to believe every trainer out there improves themselves with every pup they train.
And , I haven't ever seen anyone who can pick out the best pup of the litter at weening age. Can you do it?
And , haven't you ever had a " DANG , I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT " or " I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS" moment with a pup?
Really? You were good at all these right from the start?

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Posted by Joeslater on 02-10-2012 12:37 PM:

Dumbest thing i ever heard

Not sure who you were talking to but i was just asking a question i was told that russ cloned doc just wondering if any one knew if that was right or not

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 02-10-2012 12:49 PM:

Re: Dumbest thing i ever heard

quote:
Originally posted by Joeslater
Not sure who you were talking to but i was just asking a question i was told that russ cloned doc just wondering if any one knew if that was right or not

Sorry wasn't directed at you. I meant cloning in general is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Posted by Joeslater on 02-10-2012 04:33 PM:

sorry

no need for apology i agree with you i am always looking for a dog better than i have ever had before to me cloning would be a step back and for the cost i could buy a top hound or two not to even mention the morals involved

Posted by Matt McKinney on 02-10-2012 07:35 PM:

LOL..Guys only reason I posted this is because I saw a show where a woman was in jail and she got her dog cloned..And the first thing I thought of was wonder how long it will be before a big money man clones a hound..I wouldnt do it, nor do I agree with it.

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