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Posted by tree garth on 10-26-2010 11:14 AM:

i have a ? for all of you

whats the youngest pup that any of you have seen tree a coon in the wild, not a released cage coon and without any other dogs around thanks for reading Tim

Posted by HOBO on 10-26-2010 11:23 AM:

6 months 3 days.

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Posted by tree garth on 10-26-2010 12:34 PM:

a friend of mine has a walker thats 4 months old thats treeing its own coon all the time. he's shot a few out to her so far this season .i have never seen a pup treeing coon on its own that young

Posted by Virgil on 10-26-2010 12:46 PM:

Right around 6 months, by 7 months old she was treeing every night by herself.

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Posted by Alan Anderson on 10-26-2010 12:47 PM:

1st coon

Treed at 4 month 2 days.Now a GRWCH GRFCH NTCH GRCH.

Posted by tree garth on 10-26-2010 12:53 PM:

WOW thats awesome.... my friend is gonna send a video of his pup to my e-mail and i'll post it for you all ......Alan Anderson how did the other pups in that litter turn out Tim

Posted by Alan Anderson on 10-26-2010 02:04 PM:

Tim

Your box is full

Posted by tree garth on 10-26-2010 02:42 PM:

alan i cleaned my inbox out sorry about that ....

doug what are your walker's bloodlines thanks

Posted by Okie Dawg on 10-26-2010 02:50 PM:

My bluetic pup out of Nothern Blue Son was doing it at 6 months.

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Posted by Alan Anderson on 10-26-2010 03:02 PM:

Zues mates

I only know where 2 of them are.1 is owned by a local youth,coondog to the bone just not comp.hunted.1 belongs to Tater Harris in Cullman.2 went to Delaware as pups,1 to Miss.1 to Ga.They could all swim like a duck real young.All would bark at a cage coon at 7 or 8 weeks old.

Posted by brady8687 on 10-26-2010 04:51 PM:

Ive got some that started about 4 1/2 months out of Luckings Midnight Desperado. Out of the litter of 6 I know 4 getting it done now they are 6/12 months now.

Cant wait for kill season.

Posted by josh on 10-26-2010 05:01 PM:

I find it interesting how many pups/litters are always turning the crank so hard at such a young age (not that I doubt any of this) ...but more often than not, therse early starters go on to become average coon tree'ers at best.

Why is that?

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 10-26-2010 05:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
I find it interesting how many pups/litters are always turning the crank so hard at such a young age (not that I doubt any of this) ...but more often than not, therse early starters go on to become average coon tree'ers at best.

Why is that?

Like someone told me once. A good player in pee wee football isn't necessarily a pro prospect. The expectations of a 6 month old pup is just so much lower than that of a 2 or 3 year old dog. IMO a very young dog that trees coon is doing it 100% on instinct. To develop in to a more higher level dog you have the have the instinct, ability, and most importantly the brains and ability to learn to learn. If you get those three together combined with a lot of hunting by someone that doesn't mess the dog up too much, then you have the best chance for an above average dog.

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Posted by HOBO on 10-26-2010 05:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
I find it interesting how many pups/litters are always turning the crank so hard at such a young age (not that I doubt any of this) ...but more often than not, therse early starters go on to become average coon tree'ers at best.

Why is that?

My guess would be more than likely when they start early and are turning the crank the owner's hunt them harder than they should and they burn them out.

The one that I had that treed at 6 months and 3 days went on to be a real nice hound.

Posted by Larry Atherton on 10-26-2010 06:14 PM:

Gr.Nt.Ch. Scott's Crooked Creek Threat started about 5 months old. She was hunting by herself at 6 months old. One brother was hunting at 6 months old, and another brother started at 8 months old. One of her sisters started at 10 months old. She had two other sisters that I lost track. All of the above dogs made nice coon dogs.

Over the years most of mine have started between 7-12 months old.

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Posted by branchvillekell on 10-26-2010 06:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
I find it interesting how many pups/litters are always turning the crank so hard at such a young age (not that I doubt any of this) ...but more often than not, therse early starters go on to become average coon tree'ers at best.

Why is that?

i agree with you josh, that is why i am going to get a 1.5 yr. old female that needs a little work, so i can give my pup a break from me being over zealous.
kelley

Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 10-26-2010 06:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by branchvillekell
i agree with you josh, that is why i am going to get a 1.5 yr. old female that needs a little work, so i can give my pup a break from me being over zealous.
kelley

And what makes you think you are overhunting your pup? I am willing to bet you the farm that anyone on here will tell you, more young dogs is never the solution to any coonhound related problem. If your taking on another dog, get a solid dog that you can at least take the pup with, not another "project".

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Posted by Justin Smith on 10-26-2010 06:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by josh
I find it interesting how many pups/litters are always turning the crank so hard at such a young age (not that I doubt any of this) ...but more often than not, therse early starters go on to become average coon tree'ers at best.

Why is that?

Your " one trick ponies " don't take as long to develop mentally ... and conversely ..

A quick finisher means just that .. he's done learning , and if that happens before you even get a season or two under your belt .. it don't mean you know it all ... it just means you learned all you will.

A gourmet meal don't come out of the microwave ...

Posted by josh on 10-26-2010 06:47 PM:

I dont buy into the "burnout" theory.

Its far easier to skrew them up than it is to burn them out....Or just maybe, some of the over zealous owners see somthing that was never really there to begin with.

I know there are exceptions, but EVERY litter is always OUTSTANDING before they are a year old...I think thats the piont where reality sets in.

Posted by branchvillekell on 10-26-2010 07:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Briar
And what makes you think you are overhunting your pup? I am willing to bet you the farm that anyone on here will tell you, more young dogs is never the solution to any coonhound related problem. If your taking on another dog, get a solid dog that you can at least take the pup with, not another "project".

i really dont have a problem with my coonhound, YET, only me pushing. so , therefore, knowing this, i am going to expand my horizon with another. without a "project" the world would not be what it is. just another adventure for me. gonna be good, and a good learning experience.
never said i was going to take the project out with the pup. assumptions. hmmmm. we all know what that word means.
kelley

Posted by John D on 10-26-2010 07:10 PM:

No, but 2 projects means less time for each. Maybe you have enough time to do both justice now. At some point they should both take all your attention but instead they will get half and suffer from it.

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Posted by joey bourne on 10-26-2010 07:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by John D
No, but 2 projects means less time for each. Maybe you have enough time to do both justice now. At some point they should both take all your attention but instead they will get half and suffer from it.

I agree 100% I tell people all the time I'm a one dog man. I may go thru alot of culls before I find the one worthy of my time but when I find that special one its balls to the wall till its finished.

Posted by branchvillekell on 10-26-2010 07:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by John D
No, but 2 projects means less time for each. Maybe you have enough time to do both justice now. At some point they should both take all your attention but instead they will get half and suffer from it.

no but , for what i am paying for her, she is well worth it. and IF, i get her into shape, i have enough coonhunters that would take her off my hands if need be. she is already started and doing well, no need to convince all of you otherwise, been tossing up this decision for months.
kelley

Posted by Randy Tallon on 10-26-2010 07:33 PM:

I had an English pup out of Whittle's Sandman. He went back into Vanzant Sam. He was 4 months old when he treed his own coon. He ended up going completely upside down in his "teenage" years,about a year and a half old. Liked those bushy tail greys a little too much.

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Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 10-26-2010 07:42 PM:

Kelley:

Tell me this, how many times have you actually been coonhunting? Since you are making a chronical from all of your hunts and the "first hunt" was less than a month ago, and I have seen only 3 chronical stories do you really think it is time to add another dog into the mix?? Apparently you already have "the worlds greatest mix breed pup trainer" and a pup that is going to "kick all our butts" so really, why would you need another dog when you go twice a week? Not trying to be mean to you, but just being up front. Unless you are indpendently wealthy, or retired, or hunt 6 hours a night, the two you got now should be plenty.

Have as many dogs as you want, feed as many as you want, hunt as little as you want, I don't care. I am trying to get your to see that maybe another dog isn't a good idea. BELIEVE ME this is not the only 18 month old dog that just needs a "little work" to be a great dog. Check out the classifieds they are sold everyday. Nobody gets rid of a young dog doing a good job for a "good price". Save your money on the dog and get some tools like a light, a tracker, a shocker ect.....For crying out loud, where you live you have like a month left of hunting before you are burried in snow, why get another dog now??

I have no idea why I attempt to help people with all the anwers. It just makes me dumber than them.

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