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Posted by wade lucking on 08-31-2009 02:39 AM:

how big

curious as to what people thought for size on these 3 bear that are hitting the same bait. season open tuesday and my buddy gets first crack at one while i video the hunt and the we alternate hunts from there one, he is gun hunting and i'm doin bow and arrow.

can you tell me roughly size of these bear. new to this bear hunting stuff.

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Posted by spruce mountain on 08-31-2009 03:21 AM:

It's just a guess but I would say that the biggest one is about 250lb's and the smallest one would be about 100lb's.JMO

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Posted by mjflores on 08-31-2009 11:47 AM:

Yeah, theres nothing to use for reference but like Larry said, 250 to 300 seems about right for the larger one. May want to just run that one and not harvest, it's most likely a sow and the smaller one is last years cub. Mom must not have had a litter this early spring or she would have run the older cubs off...the cub will be looking to den up with Mom this winter.

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Posted by Kyle W. Graf on 08-31-2009 01:10 PM:

Judging the size of bears is really difficult. Judging the size of bears in pictures is even worse. I just go with small, medium or large.

Small under 150lbs. Medium 150lbs. to 250lbs. Large over 250lbs.

You have a small and a medium.
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Posted by wade lucking on 08-31-2009 01:44 PM:

the bigger one is a boar, you can see his ornaments hangin in some pic.

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Posted by dsodshounds on 08-31-2009 08:01 PM:

my uncle killed this bear a few summers ago. summer sheep killer. it weighed 330ish. not sure if you can judge by that

we treed this she earlier in the season she weighed 230-250

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Posted by JEFFHESTER on 09-01-2009 08:40 AM:

Bears

I'd say the big one will go around 300... the small one around 100.... the medium about 150. The big boar I don't believe the picture does him justice. He looks compacted and heavy to me.
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Posted by rich40s on 09-02-2009 01:03 AM:

first thing u need to do is move your camra back away from your bait a little then they wont look as big thats the thing most ppl do put it way too close but that big one is 250 maybe little more

Posted by wade lucking on 09-02-2009 04:14 PM:

i want opinion on size yes, but to be honest 1st thing over 100#s is getting a arrow punched through it, i'm hunting non quota and we get to tag over the counter, don't get me wrong i want to shoot the biggest but only will happen if he comes in 1st(i never shot a bear before).. here are some updated pics

little bear

scar(has a scar on his head that can be seen at certain angles)

Posted by spruce mountain on 09-02-2009 06:36 PM:

The big one look's to be over 300#.

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Posted by wade lucking on 09-03-2009 09:08 PM:

well last night i put arrow into the bear we called scar, decieded after not hear the death moan just to back out and come in early morning, weighed him on the farmers cattle scale and it read 364#. this is my 1st balck bear and all i do is archery hunt so taking a bear this size with my bow was a bonus, he made a samll loop but died within 50 yards of the stand.

Posted by carolk9s on 09-03-2009 10:35 PM:

Ok, putting my flame suit on...
"well last night i put arrow into the bear we called scar, decieded after not hear the death moan just to back out and come in early morning, "
First, I have nothing against hunting, even trophy hunting, if done right and with respect.
Do I understand the above quoted line correctly? The bear was shot with an arrow, you left before confirming the bear was dead? Before you knew if the bear had a fatal wound? So the bear may have lived for minutes or hours in pain and vulnerable to other predators?
Correct me if I misunderstood.

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Posted by wade lucking on 09-03-2009 11:10 PM:

the shot looked good and felt good. but being a little shook up(nerves , excitement. etc.) i guess i questioned my shot, we heard him go down and what we believed his last breath. but i follow a rule some don't "when in doubt back out" for arguement sake lets say i made a bad shot, pushing a fatal but misplaced shot animal leads to one thing 99% of the time. and dead animal not recovered, or in this case worse someone charged and attacked, thankful enought the shot was right were i put it and all is good..

i'm not going to get upset some might, i will answer your question the best i can and let you take it anyway you want.

back straps, bear jerky, and bear summer sausage hmmmm, hmmmm, good.

Posted by DEMODOG1 on 09-03-2009 11:32 PM:

NICE bear wade!!

Posted by wade lucking on 09-03-2009 11:37 PM:

thanks

Posted by wade lucking on 09-04-2009 12:02 AM:

side note even though i shot this bear i consider it mine and adams, as without him this wouldn't of happened. know i will sit with him until he fills his tag and then one to our 2nd tags.

Posted by jackbob42 on 09-04-2009 01:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by carolk9s
Ok, putting my flame suit on...
"well last night i put arrow into the bear we called scar, decieded after not hear the death moan just to back out and come in early morning, "
First, I have nothing against hunting, even trophy hunting, if done right and with respect.
Do I understand the above quoted line correctly? The bear was shot with an arrow, you left before confirming the bear was dead? Before you knew if the bear had a fatal wound? So the bear may have lived for minutes or hours in pain and vulnerable to other predators?
Correct me if I misunderstood.

Sometimes it's better to back out , and retrieve the animal the next morning , when there is any question on the shot , than to push a wounded animal and not recover it at all. Gun or bow.
It happens more with a bow than a gun though , because an arrow doesn't have the " knock-down " power of a bullet.
Anyone who knows anything about bowhunting knows this.
He did the right thing.

Nice Bear Wade !
Congrats !

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Posted by carolk9s on 09-04-2009 01:21 AM:

Wade,
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the calm response. I know NOTHING about bear hunting so did not know what is 'normal' or 'usual'.
I can appreciate what you said about a wounded bear coming back at you.
In a more perfect world, each and every kill would be clean, quick, no fuss no muss.
I try not to be a hypocrite, I eat tasty animal flesh and something tells me the cattle are not rocked to sleep before being slaughtered.
Hunting is not my thing but I surely respect your rights to do so and congratulate you as well.

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Posted by bigskyblue on 09-04-2009 05:16 AM:

Nice bear

Good job, very nice bear!!! I'm too much of a chicken without my hounds tho!!!lol Darlene

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Posted by spruce mountain on 09-04-2009 11:47 AM:

Congratulation's Wade,you definatly did the right thing by backing out.My second guess was 364#.LOL

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Posted by BIGCASTLEDAWGS on 09-04-2009 03:38 PM:

Re: Nice bear

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Good job, very nice bear!!! I'm too much of a chicken without my hounds tho!!!lol Darlene

I AGREE! I would be a chicken with out hounds AND a BUNCH of ARMED guards!

Nice Bear and Good shot as well. That was not too shabby for your first bear I imagine!

CONGRATS and Happy hunting Heather

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Posted by MDBLOODTRACKER on 09-04-2009 07:42 PM:

ThAT IS DEFINITELY A NICE LOOKING BEAR.......
I'd be darn proud to take that big boy.......what's also cool is that you have some nice trail cam pic's of him too.......
Are you gonna mount him ? Or maybe do a rug ?
Stan

Posted by mjflores on 09-04-2009 10:22 PM:

Good job, sound slike you did everything right! Especially backing out and letting it die rather than get injured or push it around all day and night. If more people could do that they'd have something to bring home (although it's very hard to walk away knowing it could be laying 50 yards away stone dead lol!). Would make a nice shoulder mount.

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