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Posted by Kamakee on 10-04-2006 03:16 PM:

Bow Hunters Myth

I dont know about where you live but I can tell its bow season around here. In the past 3 days I've had bow hunters ask me not to hunt certain areas for a while. They said coon dogs spook deer. Thats the biggest bunch of crap I've heard.

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Posted by coon dawg on 10-04-2006 03:28 PM:

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whose land is it???

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Posted by Kamakee on 10-04-2006 03:33 PM:

Not there's.

I'll stay a way cause I have so much I cant hunt but I'll also point out its not true. And invite them to come with to prove a point.

you must be a bow hunter.

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Posted by coon dawg on 10-04-2006 03:38 PM:

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Originally posted by Kamakee
Not there's.

I'll stay a way cause I have so much I cant hunt but I'll also point out its not true. And invite them to come with to prove a point.

you must be a bow hunter.

...............and a coon hunter...............actually agree with ya, bud........................good, broke hounds do nothing but HELP the deer huntin..........I have a farm, and I welcome my friends to coon hunt on it, early in the evening, during deer season......just don't bring a freakin deer runner, strikin a nice buck at 1am, and runnin him outta the country.........old buck isn't gonna take much of that before he leaves permanently.....................tell ya why it HELPS the deer huntin with good, broke dogs............ever hear these guys complainin that the buck "done went nocturnal" on them, because of huntin pressure???................when do they think the deer move when there are folks coon huntin most nights????...........yep.........it actually causes them to move MORE DURING THE DAY.........but just try convincin folks of that................lol

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Posted by Lone Pine JB on 10-04-2006 03:44 PM:

last fall, I actually had some deer come in to a tree to see what all the excitement was about.

I don't know how many times that I've been standing in a field while the dogs are running a track, when I turn on my light I can see several deer looking back. They know that they are not being chased, and don't get too excited. I had to prove this to some of my bowhunter buddies, because they asked me not to hunt certain areas.

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Posted by Art. JR on 10-04-2006 04:27 PM:

Several years ago I believe UKC published a study done by the Univ. Of Georgia. They studied radio collared deer if I remember right and the effects hunting dogs had on them. If I remember right even if the dogs ran the deer out of the county, the deer where back in their home territory withing 24 hours.

Posted by coon dawg on 10-04-2006 04:32 PM:

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Originally posted by Art. JR
Several years ago I believe UKC published a study done by the Univ. Of Georgia. They studied radio collared deer if I remember right and the effects hunting dogs had on them. If I remember right even if the dogs ran the deer out of the county, the deer where back in their home territory withing 24 hours.

...........that is correct...........for the most part..........study was conducted by my friend Dr. Larry Marchinton.....................was also a similiar study done in SC, Buddy Baker, I believe.................MOST deer returned............a few older bucks set up new home ranges ............Marchinton also did a telemetry study years ago at Auburn, concerning the same thing..........

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Posted by Art. JR on 10-04-2006 04:35 PM:

Thanks Coon Dawg. My memory is not what it use to be. But I was at least in the right state. LOL

Posted by josh on 10-04-2006 04:43 PM:

I treed a coon 100 yards from where I shot this guy 6 hours earlier....

Coonhunting dosent bother deer one bit, but you will NEVER, EVER convince the hardcore deer hunters of this, So why bother?

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Posted by coon dawg on 10-04-2006 04:44 PM:

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Originally posted by josh
I treed a coon 100 yards from where I shot this guy 6 hours earlier....

Coonhunting dosent bother deer one bit, but you will NEVER, EVER convince the hardcore deer hunters of this, So why bother?

.............heck of a nice buck, Josh!!

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 10-04-2006 04:56 PM:

First of all, I bow hunt, but I also learn from my experiences. Big bucks could care less if hunters & dogs are out there at night. I have had them stand within 20-40 yards of me and never spooking. I have had them bedded down, and they never bother to get up.

I will tell the guys and girls who bow hunt the best time to scout during season is when you are coon hunting. The scent you leave behind means nothing to those deer especially if you coon hunt that spot frequently. Many of the fallacies associated with hunter's understanding of deer are due to people think deer think like us, and that is totally untrue.

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Posted by Ron Ashbaugh on 10-04-2006 05:00 PM:

Re: Bow Hunters Myth

quote:
Originally posted by Kamakee
I dont know about where you live but I can tell its bow season around here. In the past 3 days I've had bow hunters ask me not to hunt certain areas for a while. They said coon dogs spook deer. Thats the biggest bunch of crap I've heard.

These are the same guys who never pay attention to the wind direction.....

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 10-04-2006 05:49 PM:

deer

Two of the biggest bucks ever harvested here near me loved to follow me around at night while coonhunting. Seen them ole boys alot for several years until someone caught up with em. Dogs don't bother deer....

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Posted by Tim MACHA on 10-04-2006 07:10 PM:

Wished I had a scanner for my printer

I have copies of the study done in South Carolina and would like to post a copy of it here. If someone does have the capability and a fax machine, let me know and I will fax a copy. It is on legal length paper.

Posted by JustinM on 10-04-2006 07:31 PM:

I regularly coon hunt of a night in one place and then bow hunt the next day in the same place.

Posted by chadf on 10-04-2006 08:22 PM:

took this a few weeks ago. mustv'e walked right by it going to the tree. I actually had my dog on the leash when I took this shot from about 30 yrds.

Posted by Bill(Chew) on 10-09-2006 12:03 AM:

leon Dunn and I walked up on a nice 8 point buck a few weeks ago while walking into the tree. We stood within 50 FEET of this deer and looked and talked and he never even got up.
Many times I have deer stay in the field with me and the dogs, although usually not after the season has been open for a while.

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Posted by walkercash on 10-09-2006 12:19 AM:

I agree good luck explaining it to any hard core deer hunter. I have tried for years. They dont believe me when i tell them I have shot a deer out of the same tree I treed a coon in the night before. They just cant grasp that.

Last year I took a couple young guys out, they are serious deer hunters and they asked me not to hunt thier land. So we went to some state property got treed just off a pasture loaded with deer eye ball. The deer never flinched and them boys were amazed.

coondawg Im glad you said that I have new ammo this year. I will wear that theory out in the near future

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Posted by Lee Stocking on 10-09-2006 12:39 AM:

Use this for fire

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Posted by walkercash on 10-09-2006 01:03 AM:

Thanks Lee I printed those off. Im going to make some copies tomorrow.

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Posted by on 10-09-2006 03:10 AM:

Re: ..............

quote:
Originally posted by coon dawg
...............and a coon hunter...............actually agree with ya, bud........................good, broke hounds do nothing but HELP the deer huntin..........I have a farm, and I welcome my friends to coon hunt on it, early in the evening, during deer season......just don't bring a freakin deer runner, strikin a nice buck at 1am, and runnin him outta the country.........old buck isn't gonna take much of that before he leaves permanently.....................tell ya why it HELPS the deer huntin with good, broke dogs............ever hear these guys complainin that the buck "done went nocturnal" on them, because of huntin pressure???................when do they think the deer move when there are folks coon huntin most nights????...........yep.........it actually causes them to move MORE DURING THE DAY.........but just try convincin folks of that................lol

i couldn't agree more!!! Bowhunters/ Die Hard trophy deer hunters are a coonhunters worst enemy in my area! I've had better luck explaining the sport of coonhunting to some anti-hunting nuts than I have to deerhunters. I deer hunt and generally hunt the same woods I deerhunt in. I've gotten a couple nice bucks so I must be doing alright.

Posted by GA DAWG on 10-09-2006 08:14 AM:

You cant even get in a club around here if you tell them you coon hunt.I've tried it for a year now.From now on I'm just a regular ol turkey and deer hunter!! I'll coon hunt after deer season and they will never even know I've been there.I love to deer hunt myself but the clubs in this state are full of crazy folks.They dont want a hound anywhere near the land they lease.

Posted by on 10-09-2006 04:24 PM:

You Beat Me to it Lee

For information on the availability of this brochure contact:

South Carolina Department of Natural Resources
Furbearer Project
P.O. Box 167
Columbia, SC 29202
(803)-734-3607

Although I have heard that they are doing the study over as the first one didn't give them the "results" they wanted to see. Any of you South Carolina hunters give any truth to that?

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