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Posted by scott spivey on 11-14-2011 04:01 PM:

Curled tail pup ?

Bought a couple of pups sight unseen and the guy sent me one that has a curled tail. Anyone have any experience with correcting this other than removing it?

Posted by PlottChaser on 11-14-2011 08:07 PM:

why would you remove it? some pups are born with it, usually genetic. I've had old guys tell me that meant the pup was gonna be mean, but I never saw that in one. It doesn't affect their hunting so what's the big deal?

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Posted by rockett42 on 11-14-2011 09:14 PM:

Old folks just would not hunt a curled tail pup. I dont like them either........

Posted by RED REBELS on 11-14-2011 09:57 PM:

it doesnt mean anything, it just happens... but as for it meaning that the pup was going to be mean, I have seen it but I dont think it was anything more the a coincidence. leave it

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Posted by Redoak Redbones on 11-14-2011 10:09 PM:

I have a redbone female with a curl in her tail she's not mean and has become a good coonhound the good thing about it catches the electric fence and trains them to stay out of the cow pasture

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Posted by B&LKennels on 11-14-2011 11:39 PM:

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Originally posted by RED REBELS
it doesnt mean anything, it just happens... but as for it meaning that the pup was going to be mean, I have seen it but I dont think it was anything more the a coincidence. leave it

I HAVE OWNED 2 WITH A CURLED TAIL AND WOULDN'T OWN A 3rd ONE BOTH OF THEM TURNED OUT TO BE MEAN DOG'S.NOT SAYING ALL DOG'S WITH CURLED TAIL'S ARE GOING TO BE MEAN .BUT THE 2 I HAD WAS.

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Posted by Glenn Wells on 11-15-2011 02:15 AM:

My grandmother raised German Shepherds when I was growing up, and had a litter that had curled tails. The vet broke the tail and put splints on them while they were little ... you couldn't tell that they had a curl when they grew up. It is genetic, but doesn't mean anything about being mean, that comes from mean dogs in the pedigree, that probably had straight tails!

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Posted by PlottChaser on 11-15-2011 11:28 AM:

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Originally posted by B&LKennels
I HAVE OWNED 2 WITH A CURLED TAIL AND WOULDN'T OWN A 3rd ONE BOTH OF THEM TURNED OUT TO BE MEAN DOG'S.NOT SAYING ALL DOG'S WITH CURLED TAIL'S ARE GOING TO BE MEAN .BUT THE 2 I HAD WAS.

it's just coincidence. There are mean dogs with straight tails too. can't predict the disposition of the dog by the appearance of the tail. that makes absolutely no sense.

Posted by starplott on 11-15-2011 12:54 PM:

Have you talked to the breeder about sending the puppy back?

If you don't like the pup you just aren't going to give it your all, which is half of what makes a dog. No use in cruel treatments to try and fix a cosmetic problem for the owner and no problem for the dog itself. Call the breeder and send the puppy back or sell it so it can go to a home that will appreciate the pup and want it.

If the tail makes the dog in your mind you should have told the breeder it was a defect you weren't interested in receiving when you initially purchased the pups to be sent sight unseen. Otherwise the breeder wouldn't have any idea it was a deal breaker in a pup for you.

Not everybody is picky about looks. Unless you are clear with the breeder with things you absolutely do not want, I don't know what else to say.

As for a lot of the old timer crap, a lot of it is just crap. I've heard about every little 'physical' assumption myth proven wrong. I've seen hunters choose pups or not choose pups for some really stupid reason 'tail curl or straight' the way the butthole is shaped, tight foot or coon footed. Selected pup because it had more black in its mouth, etc. Yet seen people come back with some undershot bites and other severe structure issues that created issues when young with health or inability to hunt hard or keep up with the pack. But, it was a perfect pup because the butthole shape as an old timer told them so.

Proper structure, good health, and drive go a lot farther in a good foundation of a pup. The rest is just personal preference of the owner.

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Posted by Laura Bell on 11-15-2011 01:25 PM:

One of my best dogs has a Curly Tail. It can go straight, but she just prefers to curl it. When she has a litter, I'm keeping the pup with the curliest tail out of the bunch. It may not represent the standard, but I like it.

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Posted by plentyofpossum on 11-15-2011 02:11 PM:

If your not showing the dog, what does it matter? I would assume your not considering you bought the pup sight unseen.

Posted by blueticks_88 on 11-15-2011 02:46 PM:

Iv only owned one curly tailed dog and it was a small built female and she was mean as hell to other dogs and people lol like I said iv only owned one so its probably just an old sayin but it was true in my case

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Posted by scott spivey on 11-15-2011 03:11 PM:

Hey Starplott. I really appreciate your input and am quite overwhelmed by your intelligence on this subject matter. If only I had known that you had a PHD in curled tail syndrome and were a psycology major as well, I definitely would have contacted you before I ever made the post. Heck, in hindsight had I been aware of your expertise on canines as well as Homo sapiens I would have saved myself alot of time-aggravation-money-typing(I hate typing) and negativity from some know- it- all that I don't even know. If you would permit, I would be honored to be able to contact you prior to any future endeavers or decisions I may undertake as it pertains to the world of canines in general. I hope this doesn't offend you in any way for that isn't the intent . However, my response to your negative response on my post should have been YOU'RE RIGHT and that would have made you feel better. This may very well be a cry for help on your part. If it is I certainly hope you receive it. I hope you and yours have a Happy Holiday!

Posted by gregross on 11-15-2011 03:21 PM:

I personally will keep a curled tail pup for myself I've had two and my buddy had one only ones that I've been in the woods with they all made great coonhounds and stayed with us till old age got them

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Posted by Cynthia on 11-15-2011 03:38 PM:

ive heard that you could put a piece of pvc pipe over the tail with a weight on it and over time it would straighten out some. never tried it tho, just hearsay.

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Posted by scott spivey on 11-15-2011 03:54 PM:

Not planning on removing it.(I'd have to name her Bob) Was just wondering if anyone had any experience with this. It's really not that big a deal. I would just prefer a non curled tail pup that's all.

Posted by starplott on 11-15-2011 09:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by scott spivey
Hey Starplott. I really appreciate your input and am quite overwhelmed by your intelligence on this subject matter. If only I had known that you had a PHD in curled tail syndrome and were a psycology major as well, I definitely would have contacted you before I ever made the post. Heck, in hindsight had I been aware of your expertise on canines as well as Homosapiens I would have saved myself a lot of time-aggravation-money-typing(I hate typing) and negativity from some know- it- all that I don't even know. If you would permit, I would be honored to be able to contact you prior to any future endeavers or decisions I may undertake as it pertains to the world of canines in general. I hope this doesn't offend you in any way for that isn't the intent . However, my response to your negative response on my post should have been YOU'RE RIGHT and that would have made you feel better. This may very well be a cry for help on your part. If it is I certainly hope you receive it. I hope you and yours have a Happy Holliday!

Where was the negativity?

I'm sorry, you asked how to correct the tail issue as the pup's tail is not what you want.

What was it that you wanted from your post? People running down the breeder for sending you a puppy with a fault you didn't like, before finding out if you tried to take up the issue w the breeder?

Or was it looking for do it yourself painful alternatives to docking the the tail so the curling wasn't so bothersome to you?

It's obvious you don't want the tail to curl, we all have our preferences in what we like and don't. If I don't like dogs with white on the chest I simply tell the breeder that so they don't send one with a white chest. If they still send it, I would take it up with the breeder for sending me what I did not want.

If I didn't tell the breeder I didn't like white on the chest and that is what I got sent...I sure wouldn't be on a message board asking for people to tell me how to cut the white off the dog's chest at home to make me happy.

I'm sure you wouldn't go for home remedy pecker straightening just to make you more appealing to a woman if she didn't like your curve. (ok, that was negative).

I have no reason to cry out, I passed my psych eval and I do have plenty of psychologists, psychiatrists, and counselors I work with that can vouch for that (not a joke). I'm not the one who is concerned with having people tease over a curl in my dog's tail to the point I'm willing to consider finding a home remedy to keep from spending money to have it docked. No matter what you do with it to remove or straighten the tail, it is still going to be the same dog. (that was also a bit negative)

I don't take offense over your reply. It was pretty much what was expected. I mean you did post for home remedies to straighten a puppy tail so you didn't have to dock it to like the puppy. Who would have expected much else?

It shouldn't take a psych major to look at your post and shake their head.

Hey, got any home remedies for a dog that sheds? He works like a dream, bites like hell, and most the cops and sport people cream their jeans watching him work. But man, I don't want to shave him and I sure would like to get out of brushing him. Do you think he'd look better after laser hair removal or spend the next 6 months pulling his hair out.

I got another one somebody thought the ears were too small. Any home remedies to extending them? Maybe many sessions of putting her ears in a vice and throwing a box of balls? Maybe the ears would stretch enough after the 50th time she lunged for the ball and got her ears pulled. That would make her such a better dog if her ears were 1/4 inch taller, at least that's what somebody said.

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Posted by scott spivey on 11-15-2011 10:17 PM:

Now,now Starplott let's keep it clean women and children are on here from time to time. You've so thoroughly convinced me on this subject to the point that I'm actually feeling guilty and am considering trading the non-curled tail for one that's curled . I just realized what the power of persuasion can do. I'll try one more time YOU'RE RIGHT STARPLOTT. P.S. You may want to grab one those counselors, psychiatrists you work with and spend some quality time with them if you know what I mean.

Posted by scott spivey on 11-15-2011 10:44 PM:

I know she's a woman. I'm hoping she outgrows it. The pup that is.

Posted by PlottChaser on 11-15-2011 10:51 PM:

This thread just got funny! You guys brighten my day with your witty banter...LOL!

Posted by perry co cooner on 11-15-2011 11:11 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Doug Johnson

ps, starplott is a woman

I figured she had to be bc no man is an expert on every subject that comes up on here.

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Posted by B&LKennels on 11-16-2011 12:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PlottChaser
it's just coincidence. There are mean dogs with straight tails too. can't predict the disposition of the dog by the appearance of the tail. that makes absolutely no sense.

DIDN'T SAY THAT DOG'S WITH STRAIGHT TAIL WASN"T MEAN.I WAS TELLING ABOUT THE DOG'S THAT I OWNED WAS MEAN. AND HAVE ALSO SEEN OTHER PEOPLE THAT THERE DOG HAD A CURLED TAIL THAT WAS MEAN.MAYBE YOU SHOULD BUY THAT PUP FROM THE MAN AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.NOT BEING SMART , JUST TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE 2 I OWNED.AND IF I HAD A LITTER OF PUP'S AND ANY OF THEM HAD A CURLED TAIL SURE AS HECK WOULDN'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE.WOULD JUST PUT IT IN THE GROUND.AND THE BREEDER SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE MAN ABOUT THE CURLED TAIL.WHY DO YOU THINK THE BREEDER DIDN'T KEEP IT?

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Posted by scott spivey on 11-16-2011 03:49 AM:

I would like to personally thank Starplott for saving me 3 grand. After careful consideration, not only have I decided to swap my good tailed pup for a curled tail one, so that I'll have a matching pair, I've also convinced my wife that our teenage daughter doesn't really need braces. I personally don't think she would be any sweeter with straighter teeth. On second thought, I may have to reconsider, for she has been a little on the mean side lately. Now that I think about it, heck, I'm going to get off this computer and see if I can straighten out my wife's tail.

Posted by mauser06 on 11-16-2011 05:27 AM:

anyone got pics of a "curly tailed coon dog"????

im curious now as to what the curl looks like that y'all are talkin about...

cant say i ever seen a straight tailed one?? lol we hunting pointers or coon dogs???

2 of the trackman pups we kept seem to have a curled tail...but maybe not as curled as y'all mean?? id like to see pics.....they both also have a weird flare of hair on the end of their tails..i thought that was a bit interesting...

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-16-2011 10:41 AM:

There are many different shapes for dog tails: straight, straight up, sickle, curled, cork-screw..

Hounds should carry a Sickle Tail to a Stright Up But should not Break over the Top line to a Curl ..

For Some Reason Some of mine Break over the top line and I don't like the Looks and its something I'am working on ..

This Hound Breaks over the Top line to a Partial Curl
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Wondo River KONG had the Perfect Hound Sickle Tail

As you can see in this pic all the Hounds are in a Natural State and you can see all the Tails in Sickle Form .. Except for Tonka in the Bottom Right that has that "The Coon Went That Way Tail"

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