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dead loaner

dogs and hunters these days only want to hunt and be alone.the more i think about this the more i wonder if the sport will continue in a positive direction? why do we even draw out in a cast at the hunts?

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Absolutely!! everyone and thing wants to be alone!! its not as much about which dog can take a track away from a pack and blow away with a track and get it treed ahead of a pack!! more about which dog can blow deeper and get treed!! and not even run a track and get treed first!!most don't even know if there dogs can run a track!! its always lonely and deep!! but that's winning!! nothing wrong if that's what ya want!! Compete against others on a track in a bean field or cornfield/ drive that track away from others and have it treed before the others know what or where it went/ that's competing/ which ones are track driving/ that can run a track/get under rite tree and have the coon!!it just leaves the other dogs confused!! Don't see much that anymore!! jmt!!

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C.JONES

OLD TIMES

Days of sitting under a tree and listening to a good pack or a couple of dogs running at night are getting few and far between. I like going out at night and sitting and just listening to a couple or more dogs running.

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Tony Beals
Perrinton, Mi
(989) 763-4725
MSG, US ARMY RETIRED
President of Michigan State United Coon Hunters Association

Non Coonhunters

Let me add taking new people out and having them whisper questions and I look at them and ask why they are whispering and laugh when they say they thought they had to be quit while hunting. Fun part about coonhunting you don't have to be quit and can sit and joke around and tell stories while hunting.

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Tony Beals
Perrinton, Mi
(989) 763-4725
MSG, US ARMY RETIRED
President of Michigan State United Coon Hunters Association

Good post but idk where this build a fire stuff always comes from. Since I started 30 years ago if a dog was so slow you had to build a fire I'd throw the dog on it . The absolute best dogs I've seen would tree with others or tree alone they were looking for coons. Most but not all loners were inferior track dogs that a good track dog would smoke . keep breeding them that way and see what we have in another 20 years .

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Build a Fire

Jeff the sit around the campfire was the guys/girls down southern way would turn a pack of fox hounds out and run fox all night long and just listen to the hounds run. Not so much with coon hounds took place back when we used lanterns for light

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Tony Beals
Perrinton, Mi
(989) 763-4725
MSG, US ARMY RETIRED
President of Michigan State United Coon Hunters Association

I like hunting with my buddies . I hunt three dogs at a time it's a blast sometimes they split sometimes there together but when I tell people that they look at me like I'm crazy..big game guys hunt with a pack beagle guys hunt with a pack I don't think coon hounds are that different..but I don't comp hunt and I tree alot of coons

"Deep and lonely" for the most part is a catch phrase people use because they heard somebody else use it lol.

The ones that actually are, for the most part, are what used to be described as independent to a fault or just plain and simple too nasty to tree with other dogs. If I see one swim a lake to get clear of other dogs I'm taking it out of the gene pool. Hardly even any need to lay in wait to thrash one for covering anymore, just hunt it with his deep and lonely daddy and he'll thrash him for ya.

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Friends don't let friends hunt blueticks

Dont have to worry about your dog getting chewed on as much if its alone.

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Dont have to worry about your dog getting chewed on as much if its alone.

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dead loner

I like a dog to work it's own track that it starts & split trees by itself. BUT a dead loaner is the biggest pain in butt there is.Last week on 2 casts we had there was 1. 1st night, loner goes N after we send dogs S. .5 mile gets treed. Our dogs are.9 mile S treed, 1 1/2 hr. hunt used up to score 2 circle trees. Sat. night send dogs N, make a tree & re-cut. Loner is .4 mile S of us treed & our dogs are treed .5 mile N of us when we get back to hear them. Cost me cast win by not being able to stay within hearing of our dogs.

Also, if you want to pleasure hunt with people, it is almost necessary to carry 2 rifles because dogs are never together anyway . JMO. Take care, Ron.

Re: Build a Fire

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Originally posted by tony.beals
Jeff the sit around the campfire was the guys/girls down southern way would turn a pack of fox hounds out and run fox all night long and just listen to the hounds run. Not so much with coon hounds took place back when we used lanterns for light

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I need a close and lonely dog with no quit in it. Something that will hang back from all the racing. Yet hunt through yonder if it has to. Chewback,Yadkin or anybody help me out? I think a dog like that could rack up the wins. It don't have to be alone all the time but if it's not racing I'd expect it to be alone a lot.

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Dawg I've got one for ya should be about right. 3 legs 1 eye and no nuts. Names Lucky

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Friends don't let friends hunt blueticks

Next year if ukc still has the super slams and they can get anyone to enter I will be introducing the vacuum cleaner !!

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
I need a close and lonely dog with no quit in it. Something that will hang back from all the racing. Yet hunt through yonder if it has to. Chewback,Yadkin or anybody help me out? I think a dog like that could rack up the wins. It don't have to be alone all the time but if it's not racing I'd expect it to be alone a lot.

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Originally posted by Donnie Stevens
Dawg I've got one for ya should be about right. 3 legs 1 eye and no nuts. Names Lucky

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C.JONES

Lantern

Cory, I knew I was having flashbacks, smart**s, what I get for not charging light

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Tony Beals
Perrinton, Mi
(989) 763-4725
MSG, US ARMY RETIRED
President of Michigan State United Coon Hunters Association

DEAD LONER

Most over used term in coonhound world. To hear you guys tell it there everywhere. A dead loner with coon treeing power to back it is a rare find.

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Originally posted by N Williams
Most over used term in coonhound world. To hear you guys tell it there everywhere. A dead loner with coon treeing power to back it is a rare find.

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Michael Ghorley

Dead loner

I will agree they are rare, I have only had to cull one in my life time.

Most of what everyone calls a dead loner is a dog that is blowing through the country running past coon and gets lucky and ends up getting treed 2 miles away, A good true loner dog is hard to come by although he does not have to be in the next county to be a loner he can be 300 yards and want back other dogs .

The dogs have changed over the years in just the 25 years ive been hunting. Ive got some loners but they don't shoot through the country to do it and don't mind another dog treeing 2nd but don't expect them to 'me too'. I had an older coonhunter go with me one cold night and asked me if I wanted to build a fire while the dogs went hunting. He didn't believe how much coonhounds have changed when I told him we wont have time to enjoy the fire.

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Re: dead loaner

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Originally posted by pamjohnson
dogs and hunters these days only want to hunt and be alone.the more i think about this the more i wonder if the sport will continue in a positive direction? why do we even draw out in a cast at the hunts?

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Mark

Re: OLD TIMES

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Originally posted by tony.beals
Days of sitting under a tree and listening to a good pack or a couple of dogs running at night are getting few and far between. I like going out at night and sitting and just listening to a couple or more dogs running.

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