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tone opinions
I am wondering what differant things you all use the tone for.
Over the years I have trained all my dogs to come back in when I toned them but am thinking of whistle training them to come back in and use the tone for something else.
My b&ts come back to a tone. So do most of my foxhounds. But thats along with me hollering and consistent toning.
For the foxhounds I use a single tap of the tone to get them moving again if they encounter trash (like a coon or something dead) to harass or I see them silently trailing deer. Just to remind them of what they are supposed to be doing lol.
Full blown running a barking on trash still gets a shock.
Mine are hostler broke tone broke and they enter be coming !!! With either !!
Re: tone opinions
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Originally posted by chip johnson
I am wondering what differant things you all use the tone for.
Over the years I have trained all my dogs to come back in when I toned them but am thinking of whistle training them to come back in and use the tone for something else.
recall only . and them tone sounds wear out after a while I need to send two tritronics in to be refurbished soon . you can barely here them .
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My coon hounds and beagles are all tone broke to come in with out being called unless they are tracking. My bird dog is tone broke for correcting and also coming back in. If I hold the button he comes. If I beep it once he quits whatever he is doing wrong.
when i had beagles they were all tone broke i would push the tone tel them to come if they didn't i would hit them on 1 didn't take long when i hit the tone they would beat it right back to me
I do not use the tone as a substitute for the command "Here"...I use the tone as a warning. When they get "toned" I am saying "you better stop what you are doing and think about your next move." Because it will be followed by a shock to stop. I find this way more useful than using the tone to recall a dog. I want to fire a warning shot for two reasons, one, so I don't have to shock the dog if he acts right and two, to help the dog learn positive behavior. Now if I used the tone to call the dog this wouldn't work for my purposes. I want the dog to stop whatever he is doing, messing with a squirrel, keying up on a rabbit, watching deer blast off and deciding whether or not to go, etc., not come to me when he should be/needs to be making a decision on his own.
Just curious...when you say "use it for something else", what was it you had in mind?????
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Originally posted by POTOMAC
Mine are hostler broke tone broke and they enter be coming !!! With either !!
I might use it to change the direction they are hunting or to move them out if they are messing around in one area to long.
really undecided, that is why i was looking for some new ideas besides useing it for recall.
First my name ain't dude !! Second that's spell Chkc for ya !!! Mine are whistle amd tone broke and when they hear either one they better be coming !!!!! Is that better ?? And it will also work for a warning Aswell when they receive the tone they def know they need to quite what there doing immediatly good or bad ! And since I spend the time with my hounds from the time there weened they understand what I want and a lot by the tone of my voice !!! When you put the time in them you don't have to beat them switch them are all that other bs people do!!!! Jmo and for the most part if your start them rite and hunt them alone when your starting them you won't have a lot of issues with off game !!! And the few I have had we're fixed in pretty quick fashion !!!but I'm always looking and listening to try to learn new things !!! So msinc that equates to if you have a brain between your ears we wouldn't have any problem if you were a dog here but if you didn't well then your stay would be short!!! I'm assuming you hunt on the eastern shore up around Cecil county ??? Y'all have a lot of coon over yalls way !!! If you would care to Chkc the oil on any of my hounds and come on up for a hunt in thin coon thick junk and some rough terrain feel free to call 571-233-5819 I know bobby carrol,reds carrol,marty , Tom baize, Robbie Towson,Frankie and some good guys from down that way !!!
And IMO the main and biggest reason I put a handle on all my dogs is I'm done when I'm done not them and it just might save there life if there heading for a busy road are main highway you never know !! But handling IMO would be the only reason to use the tone or as a warning as to what is coming next if they don't change what there doing !!!! As was stated before !
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Tone training a dog to come to you is a beautiful thing. no yelling and hooping.just tone em and watch them on the garmin .this was the easiest training I did with mine and it makes her a pleasure to hunt.if I get ready to go or she's close to an area I don't want her in I just bump that tone button and smile.
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Tone training a dog to come to you is a beautiful thing. no yelling and hooping.just tone em and watch them on the garmin .this was the easiest training I did with mine and it makes her a pleasure to hunt.if I get ready to go or she's close to an area I don't want her in I just bump that tone button and smile.
quote:I have mine tone broke to come to me,,all I have to do is bump it and she comes a Hellen,im sure it saved my dogs live afew nights a ago while hunting a woods aside a rr track,,she was right beside it getting ready to cross the tracks(by what my alpha was showing) so I bumped the button and bam,,she come a Hellen back to me,,I love the tone
Originally posted by POTOMAC
And IMO the main and biggest reason I put a handle on all my dogs is I'm done when I'm done not them and it just might save there life if there heading for a busy road are main highway you never know !! But handling IMO would be the only reason to use the tone or as a warning as to what is coming next if they don't change what there doing !!!! As was stated before !
I just tone trained my first dog. She comes in beautifully when she can see me. At night in the woods when I tone her she stops and won't move until I holler at her. As soon as she hears me and knows where I am, she comes running. I never used vocal commands when training her. She's ten months old. Will she learn better as she gets older?
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Originally posted by shadinc
I just tone trained my first dog. She comes in beautifully when she can see me. At night in the woods when I tone her she stops and won't move until I holler at her. As soon as she hears me and knows where I am, she comes running. I never used vocal commands when training her. She's ten months old. Will she learn better as she gets older?
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Originally posted by msinc
I do not use the tone as a substitute for the command "Here"...I use the tone as a warning. When they get "toned" I am saying "you better stop what you are doing and think about your next move." Because it will be followed by a shock to stop. I find this way more useful than using the tone to recall a dog. I want to fire a warning shot for two reasons, one, so I don't have to shock the dog if he acts right and two, to help the dog learn positive behavior. Now if I used the tone to call the dog this wouldn't work for my purposes. I want the dog to stop whatever he is doing, messing with a squirrel, keying up on a rabbit, watching deer blast off and deciding whether or not to go, etc., not come to me when he should be/needs to be making a decision on his own.
Just curious...when you say "use it for something else", what was it you had in mind?????
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Originally posted by ole hoss
Houndsmen right here fellors listen and learn. I hate buying a young dog that comes in on a tone. Its a rough life for him for the first week around here cause I train mine to come when I call when I tone he better kick it in gear and get out of the area he is in. Saves a lot of foot steps.
lol you boys must have some lungs , I found that tone button could reach further than my hollering . but I see where you coming from . I still train my dogs to come to the cow horn as well . but a little tone recall is needed around here in these small woods . with all the dog shooters now days it's best to hit that button and have the dogs high tail it and find me .
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Ol hoss what would you be wanting the dog to get away from that you use the tone for?
The main thing is bad tracks. Most dogs today have no business trien to work a bad track cause if they do tree they come up short. Their for when they hit these bad tracks I tone them out of that area. That way they learn when a bad track comes to leave it alone.
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Originally posted by huntforlife
My coon hounds and beagles are all tone broke to come in with out being called unless they are tracking. My bird dog is tone broke for correcting and also coming back in. If I hold the button he comes. If I beep it once he quits whatever he is doing wrong.
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Originally posted by ole hoss
The main thing is bad tracks. Most dogs today have no business trien to work a bad track cause if they do tree they come up short. Their for when they hit these bad tracks I tone them out of that area. That way they learn when a bad track comes to leave it alone.
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quote:
Originally posted by ole hoss
The main thing is bad tracks. Most dogs today have no business trien to work a bad track cause if they do tree they come up short. Their for when they hit these bad tracks I tone them out of that area. That way they learn when a bad track comes to leave it alone.
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Skip Hartline
219-325-0914- H
CELL 219-898-5725
gone but will never be forgotten
PR Van Dusen's Hanna o/h
NTCH PR Buck Brush Little Maggie o/h
NTCH PR Buck Brush Little Mickey o/h
PR Buck Brush Copper o/h
D NTCH PR Crooked Oak Boss o/h
D NtCH PR Alford's Alibi h
NTCH PR Alford's Hatchet h
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