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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-20-2007 08:56 PM:

Bayer tree/shrub? cow tags?

ive heard of people using bayer tree and shrub insecticide on hounds for fleas, and reciently i found someone that uses a product called purple python cow tags for fleas and ticks. would like more info on both. how much do you use of bayer? how well does it work for ticks? how do cow tags work? and where do i find them? how long do each work? i saw where 15ml is the dosage for about a 70lb hound- how do you figure poundage per mL?

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Posted by ROCK N ROLL on 08-20-2007 09:34 PM:

There is a post on here somewhere about the bayer, with about a hundred replies. It sounds like the majority likes it. I put in on 6 of my hounds last week to see how it works before i apply it to all of them. I am not seeing any fleas on those dogs. I plan on giving the other dogs a dose tonite. According to most of the replies, it doesnt really work on ticks. FLEAS is my only problem and seems to be doing the trick. RONNIE HILL

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Posted by NIGHTFIRE BLUES on 08-20-2007 09:40 PM:

i use the bayer tree and shrub product religiously!!! no fleas or ticks at all!!! (and my kennels are under pine trees)

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Posted by J. Hill on 08-20-2007 09:43 PM:

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i use the bayer tree and shrub product religiously!!! no fleas or ticks at all!!! (and my kennels are under pine trees)

where do u get something like this

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Posted by ROCK N ROLL on 08-20-2007 09:48 PM:

WALMART OR LOWES . 1 QUART WILL COST ABOUT $18.00

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Posted by NIGHTFIRE BLUES on 08-20-2007 09:58 PM:

at lowes in the garden center its in a blue container 1 container has lasted me 1 1/2 years! i rub it on there bellies and get no ill side effects!!!(i use about 1/4 cup to 1 big spray bottle)

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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-20-2007 10:02 PM:

how long does it last? whats the measurement per poundage? if i smear it on my dogs belly and he licks it will it make him sick? the ticks down here seem like they could swim in nuclear acid and not feel sick... lol will it work on them at all?

really want info on cow tags- any one know anything about them?

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Posted by wayne f on 08-20-2007 10:08 PM:

use rubber gloves when applying it as you can absorb it through your shin i apply it on the back of the neck so they can't lick it off before they absorb it into the skin,
it works real well and also kills mosquitoes once they bite the dog.

those cattle tags attached to a collar will keep most flies away

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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-20-2007 10:12 PM:

do the cattle tags effect anything but flies wayne?

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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-20-2007 11:17 PM:

anyone?

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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-21-2007 05:23 PM:

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Originally posted by ItsOlMander
how long does it last? whats the measurement per poundage? if i smear it on my dogs belly and he licks it will it make him sick?

does it work on ticks?

anyone else?....

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Posted by Lee Richardson on 08-21-2007 06:37 PM:

Cow tags have permethrin in /on them. That product works well on fleas & ticks, but it doesn't seem to work good with those tags. JMO

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Posted by jodaviess1 on 08-21-2007 09:24 PM:

I AGREE BAYER/YES--COWTAGS/NO

IF YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM WITH FLEAS, GO WITH THE BAYER PRODUCT. WE HAD FLEAS HERE THIS YEAR BAD AS I'VE EVER SEEN, THE BAYER TREE AND SHRUB WORKED GREAT. HAVE USED MANY DIFFERENT COW TAGS ATTACHTED TO THE COLLARS, NOT SO GOOD. I THINK THE TAGS HAVE TO BE ATTACHTED DIRECTLY TO THE ANIMAL TO WORK(COWS EAR FOR EXAMPLE). NOT FESIBLE FOR DOG USE. JMO.

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Posted by slaney2941 on 08-21-2007 09:29 PM:

ItsOlMander

.3 ml/lb.

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Posted by wayne f on 08-22-2007 03:13 AM:

olmander

the bayer lasts almost 3 months i put it on the neck where they cant lick it if they do lick it i never had one get sick from it but you want them to absorb through the skin for full effect i used to put it on there belly but found they lick it and less gets into there system and it doesn't last as long just push the hair foward and rub it into the skin .
the ear tags work for knats and mosquitoes and face flies i don't know about fleas or ticks as i cut them in strips and fasten them to the collar as i don't like to use more than one flea product at a time.
cut the eartag so you get the strips the with bof the collar and just wrap thin strips of duct tape around each end with the strip on the outside away from the skin

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Posted by Craig Edwards on 08-22-2007 05:14 AM:

Do you dilute it before putting it on the dog, or just rub it on straight out of the bottle?

I have two nursing females, and don't want to do anything that will harm them or the pups.

I have tried several things to kill the fleas, but I think I've been fattening them up!!!!

Really bad this year.

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Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-22-2007 05:25 PM:

thanks yall- 3months is a pretty good stretch, everyone ive talked to swears by bayer... havnt seen a flea in months. im gonna go get some and see if it effects the ticks any, thats where my problem is. ticks seem like theyre thriving this year, dont seen any fleas on my dogs but better safe than sorry. seems like if they get a head start on you you have a war on your hands to get rid of them. purple python cattle tags say they cover flies, misquitoes, gnats, and ticks... im not sure if they would keep fleas away or not, but like i said ticks are my problem. flys annoy the dogs some around the house as well but nothing some fly spray hasnt taken care of.

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Posted by Craig Edwards on 08-23-2007 04:02 AM:

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Do you dilute it before putting it on the dog, or just rub it on straight out of the bottle?

I have two nursing females, and don't want to do anything that will harm them or the pups.

I have tried several things to kill the fleas, but I think I've been fattening them up!!!!

Really bad this year.

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Posted by Ellie Mae on 08-23-2007 05:06 AM:

TICKS:-(

If you just have ticks, you might want to try the Preventic collars.
My daughter has 11 dogs she was using Front Line Plus on and they still had ticks. She put Preventic collars on all of them and you never see a tick, even when they've been in the woods. Just make sure you cut the extra part of the collar off. One of her pups ate about 2" of his collar and got very sick. The collars cost about $12 each and last all summer. That was the best tick investment ever made. Good luck getting rid of those suckers.

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Posted by wayne f on 08-23-2007 06:58 AM:

jodiveis1

did you read where i said to cut the ear tag in strips and attach to the outside of the collar they do work keeping flies knats and mosquitoes from the dogs i don't think i would punture my dogs ear to attach them either,
the same with my horses i attach them to the browband on the halter

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Posted by fatcowboy49 on 08-23-2007 03:34 PM:

OK, if you put it on the back of their neck....you just pour it on? Undiluted?

Fleas are terrible here, haven't noticed many ticks on the dogs.

Babe

Posted by English Rule on 08-23-2007 04:48 PM:

Simple remedy

Just worm all your dogs with ivermectin once a month. .1 ml per 10lbs. I have no flea or tick problems and the kennel is in the middle of a pine thicket, in the Heart of DIXIE.

Also, use the Bayer just like you use the advantage. It is diluted more so, use twice as much. It takes .7ml per 6lbs of advantage so do the math.

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Posted by chadf on 08-23-2007 05:33 PM:

Re: TICKS:-(

quote:
Originally posted by Ellie Mae
If you just have ticks, you might want to try the Preventic collars.
My daughter has 11 dogs she was using Front Line Plus on and they still had ticks. She put Preventic collars on all of them and you never see a tick, even when they've been in the woods. Just make sure you cut the extra part of the collar off. One of her pups ate about 2" of his collar and got very sick. The collars cost about $12 each and last all summer. That was the best tick investment ever made. Good luck getting rid of those suckers.

I'll second the preventic collars for ticks. there are a few off brands of them just look for the active ingriedent amitraz.

Posted by ItsOlMander on 08-23-2007 05:52 PM:

Re: TICKS:-(

quote:
Originally posted by English Rule
Just worm all your dogs with ivermectin once a month. .1 ml per 10lbs. I have no flea or tick problems and the kennel is in the middle of a pine thicket, in the Heart of DIXIE.

i worm my dogs every month with ivormec- just wormed em and still fleas and ticks. gave all dogs a little extra wormer to try to take care of the bugs and it didnt do any good. just worming isnt sufficient here.

quote:
Originally posted by Ellie Mae
If you just have ticks, you might want to try the Preventic collars.
My daughter has 11 dogs she was using Front Line Plus on and they still had ticks. She put Preventic collars on all of them and you never see a tick, even when they've been in the woods. Just make sure you cut the extra part of the collar off. One of her pups ate about 2" of his collar and got very sick. The collars cost about $12 each and last all summer. That was the best tick investment ever made. Good luck getting rid of those suckers.

can you get these at any petstore or do i have to order them from a tractor supply or jeffers or somthing?...

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Posted by English Rule on 08-23-2007 06:02 PM:

Alright

Go to the vet or feed store and pick up a bottle permethrine concentrate. Mix it twice what the lable calls for and spray around your kennels about fifty foot circumference. Also, put the bayer down your dogs backs.

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