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Posted by ukc_hunter on 03-01-2008 12:02 AM:

silent dog ?

my dog has always been a little tight on the ground but now he is dead silent on trail and trees ever breath anyone know what might cause this.Any help would be apperciated

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Posted by Fox Valley on 03-01-2008 12:35 AM:

Some hounds do that with age, they catch more on the ground or just learn they can get up on the coon faster by shutting up. I would think genetics play apart too, how did the sire & damb do it?

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Posted by mkidd0021 on 03-01-2008 03:45 AM:

yeah he'll never come out of that its not always a bad rhing like tonight we were hunting near cliff they kept running the coons in the cliffs or in holes a silent dog will be up on them before they know and theyll clime a tree for him. some locations a silent dog can make lots of trees other dogs cant. but me i like to hear one too so its give and take but i dont think you can get one to start back barking on track

Posted by damon shivers on 03-01-2008 05:25 AM:

SILENT DOG

SMARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK A DOG GO'S SILENT BECAUSE HE GETS MORE FUR IN HIS MOUTH THAN PULLED OF DEN TREES.WHEN IM HAVEING TROUBLES TREEING COON WITH MY OPEN DOGS I TAKE OLD JOKER GETEM EVERYTME.

Posted by hopm on 03-01-2008 05:58 AM:

Re: SILENT DOG

quote:
Originally posted by damon shivers
SMARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK A DOG GO'S SILENT BECAUSE HE GETS MORE FUR IN HIS MOUTH THAN PULLED OF DEN TREES.WHEN IM HAVEING TROUBLES TREEING COON WITH MY OPEN DOGS I TAKE OLD JOKER GETEM EVERYTME.

Exactly!
It was caused by him getting smarter. I got one who is completely silent. He will bark treed 3 or 4 quick barks and then start checking trees until he is satisfied it is the right one. He then gives one bawl and changes to a chop. Every sound he makes will be on tree. I didn't think I would like it....but I do more every time I go!!!
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Posted by lightning1 on 03-01-2008 10:56 AM:

I have one that likes to sneak up on them with a long bawl then a hard chop. I have another one that's wide open but they had better be moving because he will move in fast with a dying bawl then chop. Sounds like you have a little older smart dog that won't change.

Posted by pete on 03-01-2008 11:11 AM:

well- i dont know your dog - i cant say if he got smarter or not -

--ive had a silent dog go wide open - do you supose he got stupider - lol

i have seen dogs go silent because of an ear problem -

most likely its genetic-

Posted by Loren Simpson on 03-01-2008 11:20 AM:

I have a old dog that's silent by himself. He'll open a little when I'm training pups and opens every breath in stange company...dont know why but he's been like this his whole life.

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-01-2008 01:24 PM:

would be nice to pull up in some of these sub.throw
a silent dog out track it out & tree it.

Posted by burdette on 03-01-2008 03:28 PM:

my female black dog is the same way. it seems if i knock some coon out to her she opens more on ground. but i like her tight mouthed and she trees alot of coon on the outside.

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Posted by huntinginsc on 03-01-2008 07:08 PM:

older

I have had soem that were real tight up to two years and then just seemed to open up. And by 3 they were open trail dogs. Can't explain it. But with age you never know.

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Posted by southernblueman on 03-01-2008 09:21 PM:

I HAVE A OLDER DOG HE WENT SILENT ON TRACK ALMOST QUIT BARKING TOOK HIM TO VET THEY FOUND OUT HE HAD A HEART PROBLEM THEY PUT HIM ON BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINE STARTED BARKING ON TRACK AGAIN. THEY SAID HEART CONDITION WOULD MAKE IT HARD TO BARK WOULD WEAR OUT EASY.

Posted by chosen2 on 03-01-2008 10:06 PM:

I have a tight mouth female that will run silent in the warm months and Spring or Fall she opens up more on certain tracks.

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Posted by elvis on 03-01-2008 11:30 PM:

Re: silent dog ?

quote:
Originally posted by ukc_hunter
my dog has always been a little tight on the ground but now he is dead silent on trail and trees ever breath anyone know what might cause this.Any help would be apperciated

quit killing coon to him.

Posted by Clint Welsh on 03-02-2008 03:27 AM:

Re: Re: silent dog ?

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
quit killing coon to him.

How would that help? Not trying to be a smartass, just curious.

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Posted by elvis on 03-02-2008 04:17 AM:

Re: Re: Re: silent dog ?

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Originally posted by Clint Welsh
How would that help? Not trying to be a smartass, just curious.

ive had dogs that were naturely a bit titemouthed that would go completey silent if i gave them too many coon.
I cant tell you why,all I can tell you is from experience that i figured out if I didnt give them a coon for several nites,they would start opening on the ground again.
granted,I think they were all from the same line and it may not work with all dogs, but I thought it mite be worth a try.

Posted by Dan Dogs on 03-02-2008 04:45 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: silent dog ?

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
ive had dogs that were naturely a bit titemouthed that would go completey silent if i gave them too many coon.
I cant tell you why,all I can tell you is from experience that i figured out if I didnt give them a coon for several nites,they would start opening on the ground again.
granted,I think they were all from the same line and it may not work with all dogs, but I thought it mite be worth a try.

elvis, i have noticed the same thing. when coon season comes around, they tend to use less mouth later in the season.

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Posted by jculler8 on 03-02-2008 06:51 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: silent dog ?

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Originally posted by elvis
ive had dogs that were naturely a bit titemouthed that would go completey silent if i gave them too many coon.
I cant tell you why,all I can tell you is from experience that i figured out if I didnt give them a coon for several nites,they would start opening on the ground again.
granted,I think they were all from the same line and it may not work with all dogs, but I thought it mite be worth a try.

Hey elvis? Kinda like Janis? That would explain her being a 3rd/4th strike dog.

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Posted by wayne f on 03-02-2008 07:48 AM:

any body notice the ones tight on the ground are usualy very accurate

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-02-2008 01:28 PM:

use to be a lot of spring creek dogs that way.
tight on the ground but you could load the gun
before you went.

Posted by joey+redticks on 03-02-2008 02:05 PM:

2 of the last 3 trees my dog has been on there was no trail barking just tree now unless she hit the trail at the tree or was tight on ground i dont know...ive only killed 2 out to her this year and that was cause she treed them in our barn or in the yard

Posted by Dan Dogs on 03-02-2008 02:35 PM:

some dogs are just naturally tight from day one....the ones that are normaly open will tend to tighten up when there hunted down and killing alot of coon. then theres some that are just plain noisey no matter how many are shot out to them...

Posted by jculler8 on 03-02-2008 04:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blueticking: it
use to be a lot of spring creek dogs that way.
tight on the ground but you could load the gun
before you went.

my dogs are spring creek bred... i see a lot of the traits in this thread in them... and yes, they are very accurate too

Posted by BRYAN J on 03-02-2008 05:05 PM:

Re: SILENT DOG

quote:
Originally posted by damon shivers
SMARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK A DOG GO'S SILENT BECAUSE HE GETS MORE FUR IN HIS MOUTH THAN PULLED OF DEN TREES.WHEN IM HAVEING TROUBLES TREEING COON WITH MY OPEN DOGS I TAKE OLD JOKER GETEM EVERYTME.

Amen to that Damon! I do like dogs to be somewhat silent. I hate to listen to a dog bark every breath.
On a hot track that'll happen with my female. Thats ok. Just hate babbling too.

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Posted by akso235 on 03-03-2008 04:54 PM:

how do you keep him from getting scratched in a hunt, ukc hunter

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