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Posted by Yard Dog Joker on 09-26-2016 05:07 AM:

Why don't UKC issues these tests?

They are called lie detectors!!!

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Posted by Ryan Karl on 09-26-2016 05:19 AM:

They are not always right!

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Posted by Yard Dog Joker on 09-26-2016 02:54 PM:

Ryan just curious since you make that statement you must know more than I do. How are they given now adays?

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Posted by shadinc on 09-26-2016 02:54 PM:

Re: Why don't UKC issues these tests?

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Originally posted by Yard Dog Joker
They are called lie detectors!!!
So we can have people saying the lie detector test is rigged?


Posted by Nick Jennings on 09-26-2016 03:12 PM:

I did a polygraph test this summer.

They hook you up everywhere! blood pressure cuff, temperature pad under your butt, two metal bands around your chest and back to measure depth changes in your lungs, and heartrate monitor. You look like their sending you back in time to woodstock

if you have a bicuspid valve and have involuntary off- beats in your heart beat,...it will show as if you were lying. But really you're not

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Posted by sleepy head on 09-26-2016 03:29 PM:

Someone trys to put one on me may have a sore face


Posted by tony.beals on 09-26-2016 04:06 PM:

Polygrah test

Even in court they are not always admissable, because of just what the above Individual stated. There are a lot of varriables that can affect the out come.

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Posted by Yard Dog Joker on 09-26-2016 04:25 PM:

Actually that's outdated polygraph testing, what we have now on the force is just a microphone that can tell by your voice. Yes that's correct hook up a microphone and answer the questions. And it's more accurate than what the above said he had to do which is old school.

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Posted by jc kennels on 09-26-2016 04:31 PM:

All of the big fishing tournaments use a lie test so why not hunts. The big rock fishing tournaments has millons on the line and us the test.


Posted by Robert Johnson on 09-26-2016 05:20 PM:

so we think a machine is going to say you are telling truth or lying. I have looked at those computer screens and its mostly lines to me. Says nothing. read between them lines on the screen anyway you want. Heck, the guy doing the reading could be lying......or truthful. Who knows?

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Posted by Nick Jennings on 09-26-2016 05:32 PM:

along with that test was about 300 questions on paper, then a pre-test that set the baseline (8 trues, 2 false), then the real deal. 10 questions asked, then again, then again.

I really don't think UKC wants to do that. If they do it for one person, they gotta do it for every person. and I don't think UKC really wants to know the answer to some questions. Might surprise us all

Youtube has some great ideas. Watch the one with the printer. lmao

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Posted by Come Get Some on 09-26-2016 08:22 PM:

Funny Stuff right here!

Yea your right UKC probably doesn't want to fool with it. But Id say that man that got screwed out of that CW when the other dog treed 2 grinners would have loved to see him take one. So he could have advanced on to the Final 4!!! A non hunting judge screws a man from advancing on to the final 4 of the world hunt because he probably got paid 500 or better and some of you'll try to just sweep it under the rug like no big deal. Bet your numbers are down next year at the world hunt because of this.


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-26-2016 09:23 PM:

Re: Funny Stuff right here!

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Originally posted by Come Get Some
Yea your right UKC probably doesn't want to fool with it. But Id say that man that got screwed out of that CW when the other dog treed 2 grinners would have loved to see him take one. So he could have advanced on to the Final 4!!! A non hunting judge screws a man from advancing on to the final 4 of the world hunt because he probably got paid 500 or better and some of you'll try to just sweep it under the rug like no big deal. Bet your numbers are down next year at the world hunt because of this.


By next year most will have forgotten this. Right or wrong..

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Posted by Ryan Karl on 09-27-2016 01:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Yard Dog Joker
Ryan just curious since you make that statement you must know more than I do. How are they given now adays?

Well I guess on this issue I do. There is a reason they are not admissible in court. Because they can fail.
Now I do agree that something should have been done but I don't think a lie detector will do it.

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Posted by DeerSlyer86 on 09-27-2016 01:31 AM:

A lie detector test won't even hold up in Court

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Posted by BornAganBeagler on 09-27-2016 01:35 AM:

Most people get on this board and brag about having a 70% accurate dog so that tells me that those people dont care to fail 30% of the time so i say yes bring a lie detector in the mix. Ive read where they are 70-75% accurate.


Posted by Ryan Karl on 09-27-2016 01:40 AM:

Would it be alright if they issued a lie detector test and it turned out wrong and someone who had worked and spent all that money was not only scratched out of his rightful position but banned like most are saying they should do. When he was given a test that is proven to fail

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Posted by BornAganBeagler on 09-27-2016 02:01 AM:

I was being sarcastic. Its hard to root out liars. They can live amongst us and we may never know it. Chances are theres a dishonest person on this message board probably bashing the very person that made the bad call at the world hunt. Its a shame to say but lieing and cheating is the same whether your lieing to win a cast or lieing to sale a dog or slamming on your brakes in front of the cop to make him think your doing the speed limit. Just so happens that this cheater showed up at the world hunt.


Posted by Deekus on 09-27-2016 03:13 AM:

This is simple they cannot issue tests because everyone would fail everyone always says he or she has never done that before and numerous other lies that are strictly coon hunter related such as that's not my dog he is still treed there could be a coon there and so on


Posted by chaz2012 on 09-27-2016 03:52 AM:

Re: Why don't UKC issues these tests?

quote:
Originally posted by Yard Dog Joker
They are called lie detectors!!!


Because they would be using them all day every day and finding nothing but a bunch of liars and everyone would quit

1st seriously why should you need one , you have a non hunting judge with nothing to gain in the only hunts that matter and at what point would you have to subject them to a test, They may have had one make a mistake but I bet he will never judge again or at least not at the world

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Posted by DEE POWELL on 09-29-2016 06:35 PM:

Where did all the fun go in hunting a dog in the night hunts. You win some and lose some... I know my days of competing in large hunts is over do to health reasons but if I was young again and read this thread I would look at spending money on a diffrent hobby.
It is still a hobby correct?

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Posted by yadkintar on 09-29-2016 09:09 PM:

I wouldn't be out and out lying but I might not always always remember how it actually happend ! I might even have left a part out that I did not like somtimes not on purpose tho !


Posted by BornAganBeagler on 09-29-2016 10:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by DEE POWELL
Where did all the fun go in hunting a dog in the night hunts. You win some and lose some... I know my days of competing in large hunts is over do to health reasons but if I was young again and read this thread I would look at spending money on a diffrent hobby.
It is still a hobby correct?

the hobby part of it was what got people involved to start with. But i bet there was t many hobbyist in the last two rounds of the world hunt. When you start paying handlers and spending 10 or 15 k on a dog its no longer a hobby but a way of life or a job or something. jmo


Posted by Melblank on 09-29-2016 11:33 PM:

Competition hunters apparently suck. I will just stick to true hunting where if you don't have the coon you don't succeed.


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