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To squall or not to squall

I hear a lot of guys say that they don't squall at the trees because if a dogs slick it will make the dogs get worse. Here in the Deep South our trees are already thick with leaves and if a Coon doesn't look your SOL without squalling. What are your guys thoughts?

I agree with what alot of guys are saying. Finished dog-ok. Pup-no way.

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You have to learn to watch a pup, if it fires the pup up then no, I wouldn't do it. If they are indifferent to it then its not a big deal. If I was a guy that didn't have enough dog savvy to know the difference it's probably a good rule to just not ever do it. Most faults a dog has are in one way or another created by who ever handled and trained them.

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I've never understood why some folks walk in and blow the reeds out of their squallers on plainly slick trees. Kinda like Michael said above, handlers gotta have a little more sense than what they're handling...

Honestly if you squall on every tree regardless if you think its slick, it will condition the dog to you blowing a squaller. And I know a few guys including myself that will blow a squaller on a bunch of trees. Gets them used to it for the hunts too. I haven't seen a dog that you couldn't condition after a couple weeks of hard hunting.

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once you have handled a dog on a slick tree you have already reinforced bad behavior .tying one up on a slick tree while you look for the coon is why sending them on seldom works on curing the slick treeing dog . just a few times at being handled slick is all it takes to ruin a young hound .

I don't care if it's an old dog or a pup. Squall and make sure the tree is slick before you correct the dog. Who wants to correct a dog only to find a coon after the fact?? Especially a leafy tree. You correct the dog in the right way, it won't matter if you squalled or not.

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I tie dogs on all trees. If the dog is corrected the right way it won't matter. Not tying dogs will start bad habits

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I'm trying to understand this squalling thing. If a dog slick trees squalling makes him tree more for no reason. But if one won't tree no amount of squalling will make him tree. HMMMM

I know, right!!😳

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i have very little use for one. i won't use 1 till i find the coon if i am training. like jim said ya need to know your pup.
i know some fellows that blow them at every tree. i have watched them train pup after pup of slick treer's. maybe there is more issues as well but never understood why anyone would cause these issues for there self.

i have seen dogs corrected for slick treeing only to step back take a second look and find the coon. it didn't ruin the dog at all. now i have seen dogs not corrected on slicks that i felt it just ruined them or at least i had no desire to own them.