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Posted by headless01 on 07-17-2012 05:28 AM:

Re: Thank You

quote:
Originally posted by Roger Smith
I got news for you, they will cheat just as bad and have a "I Hate You" attitude for one little yellow sheet! Then, they will bragg about how it went down. Do any of you remember when the old saying (His Concients Will Keep Him From Getting A Good Night's Sleep) really did mean something? It's sad nowdays what lenghs people will drupp to draw attention to themselves. I'm pretty sure God would like it better that way also.


you sure got that right. they want you gone because it cramps their style. they talk god, but when it comes time to hunt, the real devil appears. they tell lies, threaten and start all kinds of crap trying to get you gone, gang up with their buddies. i'm just gonna automaticly assume when i see them coming my way from now on. filing a complaint like ukc said won't work when buddies won't file it on them when they see it with their own eyes. but they'll file one quick against you if you defend yourself from these crooks. i was told its your responsibility to file a complaint not moh or HD. if so how is it they file complaint against someone defending themselves from these haters. thats why #'s are down at hunts, and them crooks want it that way.


Posted by darwin barber on 07-17-2012 07:11 AM:

like i said ima newby in this comp. hunt, but if its this bad its sad that the handler wins instead of the hound, im glad i do more pleasure hunting, i guess that was the way i was brought up, always pleasure to be with a good hound and ppl, no matter who showed the meat we always bragged on each others hound, wat happen? the way i would look at it a good hound will always will be rember, but a one of them good [handlers] just another name lol to watch out for! thats the way it looks on here, is it that bad?

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Posted by smokin-1-mo on 07-17-2012 02:21 PM:

DARWIN, ITS NOT AS BAD AS THESE GUYS WOULD LEAD YOU TO THINK ....GOOD LUCK I THINK YOU WILL ENJOY YOUR SELF...


Posted by headless01 on 07-17-2012 06:45 PM:

DARWIN, did'nt mean to discourage you. there is alotta good in hunts too. its like everything else in this world, what really matters is why you're there. nothing else. its really fun, and real amusing at times.

enjoy yourself, and watch and learn. the real truth don't hide.
good hunt'n and god bless.


Posted by on 07-18-2012 01:07 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by POTOMAC
They aren't slick handlers if they do things like that they are low down dishonest people and the real sickening part is I guarantee the dishonesty doesn't stop there i'm sure it starts from the time they awake until the time they lay down!!! It's a real shame that there is no integrity or self worth in most of the younger people and some of the older people!if you have to cheat to win a coon hunt and it makes you feel good about yourself or gives you a sence of worth ,son you are in trouble!!!! Hopefully one day a mans word,name and a hand shake will mean something again!jmo
very well put Sir. I have only been in this sport a few years and am only 31, But was raised with old school southern values. If I win its cuz me and my dog earned it. If not its cuz we got beat.I look for every coon that gets treed and point everyone out that I find NO matter what. When I get home I can sleep, win or lose


Posted by kcchurch on 07-18-2012 10:17 PM:

I also look for every coon that is treed no matter what dog or the person it is. I look at it as the dog earns it not the handler. If the dog beats mine then thats ok Im perfectly fine with that. The coon event is suposed to be for the best dog that night to win. I think hunters has forgot the purpose and ethics of sportsmanship. I learnt from my father and what he instilled in me. I hope we can look back and remember where the sport came from and what its suposed to be.


Posted by Clif Owen on 07-18-2012 10:42 PM:

That happened a long time ago for some. I drew a dog that was being handled by a guy that hunted some for another fellow. Well, long story short, my dog treed. When we got in there, Sam sat down on a log. After the tree was closed for shining, he said" Come here, I want to show you something." Yep, he had spotted the coon when we first walked up there. Guess I should be happy he got beat too. treed in for 2nd about 3 minutes behind mine on the next tree(s) and nearly 4 behind his on the one(s)..it was a split tree and beat both of us.


Posted by CoonCaptain on 07-19-2012 12:05 AM:

I cheat. I bend the rules. I cheat.
I've not seen too many people that will hold to the letter of the law.

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Posted by TRDean on 07-19-2012 12:12 PM:

I just pleasure hunt...

and really enjoy it. I have thought at times about comp hunting. The reason being is to see some really good dogs...being as I mostly pleasure hunt alone. My drive would be to see some great coon dogs at the hunts. So that being said, I would shine for anyone, simply because I like to see coons in the tree lol! I am a competitive person and always will be, but I would never lower myself to bending rules or not shining just so I could win. In another thread someone said they thought that these "crooked" handlers were mostly fine people before and after the hunt. I can't abide by that. When someone changes their personal honor code depending on the situation they have no moral backbone.

Maybe I will get to meet some of you folks some day. I really enjoy reading the posts from you guys...and you can be sure, I will always be shining the tree...regardless if my dog is there or not.

All the best,

Tim

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Posted by headless01 on 07-19-2012 05:17 PM:

Re: ROGER

quote:
Originally posted by smokin-1-mo
ME TOO...........I HERE THAT ALOT WHEN ONE GUY SEE COON THAT ARE NOT THERE SOMEONE ELSE WILL SAY ME TOO....PLUS IT ...MOST OF THE TIME ITS THEM GOOD OLD BOYS ....


you said that right sir, and them are the ones that tell you how honest and fair they try to treat everbody. should be barred for doing that crap. sad part is they keep claiming ''truth'' and do it every chance they get when it helps them win.
i like to light that sucker up then and show'em, that aint no coon. thats when they play dumb and smart at same time, interpetating in that grey area. taking advantage, cheating.
then you're muttered a trouble maker behind their wall of ethics, and disliked.


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