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I started a young fellow coon hunting. The next year he could drive himself and got int comp hunting serious. A few years later I ran across him and invited him on a coon hunt. I had my regular old dogs and he had a nite champ at that time. I kept hearing a stopwtch clicking. We killed afew cOons but I noticed he did not shine if his dog was gone. That's Ok by me, I normally hunt by myself and I am still the best coon finder I ever saw. I even found one his dog was treeing on. What beats me is why does the Comp attitude and body language have to tag allong when you are just pleasure hunting with an old friend? Needless to say I saw no need of inviting him back.

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Originally posted by Tully
A man that bragged about his honesty, would be the first to bend you over...

PROBABLY SOME TRUTH TO THAT, no different than a thief being stolen from!

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Originally posted by jackbob42
I ain't seen a good dog in a long time.

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Originally posted by chuck west
LOL ,,I know a few people like that ,,even on here ,,,lol

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Originally posted by Joe S.
i dont think id still be coonhunting..

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my grandpap had a guy come to by a horse 1 time when i was about 19 yrs old guy told him i want the horse but can pay you 1/2 then make payments on the rest told my pap im a hoset person pap said your as honset as i let you be you save your money when you get it all come back and you can have the horse if your in a hunt and beating your cast you will find alot of dishonset people jmo

see your coon? with 10k on the line i cant even hear your dog to take your call. badboy gotta eat...

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Originally posted by smokin-1-mo
10,000..................WHAT COON ....IF ITS GOING TO BEAT ME OUT OF 10,000 IM NOT GOING TO SHINE IT .....SORRY...AND I DONT THINK THATS CHEATING....

IF I AM SHINING A TREE FOR 10,000 MY LIGHT IS THE ONLY ONE I WANT IN THE TREE.........

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me too. if i show you something you can bet it aint a coon. just need your attention there til time is up lol

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Originally posted by BADBOY2012
see your coon? with 10k on the line i cant even hear your dog to take your call. badboy gotta eat...

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I've been in coon hunting for years and when I was over seas thats all I could think about was hearing those dogs. I joined the Military when I was 18 and been depolyed twice. I just got back into hunting the past 2 years. I bought a young male dog that trees off the tree about 5 to 10 feet. I was proud of him so I put him in a Hunt. The first turn out he located I treed him then we herd a dog fight he came back to me. We turned lose again he struck and was going down the creek. A dog pulled up short my dog came to check him and this dog downed him this all happen within 50 to 100 yrds from us so we could hear. When we got to the tree the handler stated he is biting the limbs above him and laughed. I was boiling, it might have been wrong but I told him and yeah ur dog is also biting on our dogs to he is mean and you know it. I got word back that I was wrong for saying that. I stood up for my dog. I dont understand why people wont to hunt a mean dog. I do the best I can with every hunt I go to. if another dog beats me then so be it my dog wasnt the better dog that night. I will search the tree and help the other handler fine his coon even if he dont help me. It is about the dogs not the hunters and people has forgotton that. They want their dogs to when every night. If you dont cheat your dog will not win every night there is no such thing as an unbeatable dog. I ask everyone who reads this to look back at when hunting was fun and when you was a kidd. I say this because somewhere a kidd is watching you. Dont let him grow up that way, teach him the way it should be honesty and most of all integrity.
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should have scratched the aggressor. 3 that says they seen it to 1 vote that he didnt wins the decission. then you only got 2 dogs to beat. however that mean one might have been mine. he is supposed to have the tree cleared and alone when we get to it lol. guess i need to work on him in the future. play to win...

We could just scratch everything at the tree when we hear growling and fighting. Sure we gonna get some innocent little angels but hey, just gotta take one for the team every now and then

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hope i never draw smokin1mo or ga dawg lol. we think 2 much alike. may the best dog win... the fight lol. last and last suits me fine when he runs every thing off the tree.

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We could just scratch everything at the tree when we hear growling and fighting. Sure we gonna get some innocent little angels but hey, just gotta take one for the team every now and then

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
We could just scratch everything at the tree when we hear growling and fighting. Sure we gonna get some innocent little angels but hey, just gotta take one for the team every now and then

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Once I get a dog that's good enough to hunt for $10k, then I'll think about this question.

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LOL i like how some people call people slick handlers. 9 out 10 times its someone that knows the rules better than someone else and they think their cheating them or they know how the rules read and use them in their favor and their cheating. if you know the rules you can call these slick handlers on their BS and just hunt like your suppose to.

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Originally posted by hillbilly56
my grandpap had a guy come to by a horse 1 time when i was about 19 yrs old guy told him i want the horse but can pay you 1/2 then make payments on the rest told my pap im a hoset person pap said your as honset as i let you be you save your money when you get it all come back and you can have the horse if your in a hunt and beating your cast you will find alot of dishonset people jmo

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ima a newby in the comp. hunts, but i would and did look just as hard for the other mans as i did my own, guess i would always will, lol wat i seen the best dog always pulls it off anyway!

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they crooks every where u go not only in coon hunting.its just sad i will work for my ten grand.u can cheat your way to the top.im done there haha

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Thank You

I got news for you, they will cheat just as bad and have a "I Hate You" attitude for one little yellow sheet! Then, they will bragg about how it went down. Do any of you remember when the old saying (His Concients Will Keep Him From Getting A Good Night's Sleep) really did mean something? It's sad nowdays what lenghs people will drupp to draw attention to themselves. I'm pretty sure God would like it better that way also.

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Originally posted by Mike Knuckols
Im good with finding my own . I am however serious about the question on the infared scanner . Bushnell makes one reasonable for $150 not bad if I can locate him then try and spot him with the LED light ( I like them ) and get the other guys to see them . I do however find them better with the old 5100 head I guess if the scanner isnt legal I gould carry an extra head . This guy in question wouldnt see the coon if I put a lazer dot on it or shot it out lol . Not a bad guy at all but has to win and will pull some stuff to do it . I know another guy that probably thinks Im refering to him but its not who you think

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Great Job

I have lost my share of hunts because I found the other person's coon. I would go home and sleep better than I have in a long time afterwards. Totally Agree

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Originally posted by patches9452
what is actually being said or implied by some is.... im as honest as can be until you add the money then your on your own.... hope and pray when or if the time ever comes im a better man than that.... not a 10,000 dollar hunt but i did knock myself out of the ukc world finals by seeing a mans coon for him after the hunt was over that beat me and i havent ever regretted what i did not one minute and hope that will always be the case

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Amen

I could not agree more!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by MikeR
Posts like Coomers on this thread are why so many people have such a low opinion of competition hunts and refuse to participate.

The lack of sportsmanship and cheating crap that goes on at hunts is why many people could care less about titles. A good many dogs who have them are paper made dogs who got their titles by slick handlers, poor sportsman and out right cheaters.

Some handlers and many "hired guns" will do anything it takes to get a win including cheating and demonstrating a lack of sportsmanship by not shining or refusing to acknowledge seeing coon treed.

In many cases these days it's not about the best dog winning the cast it's about the best / slickest handler winning.

I'm glad the big money hunts use non-hunting judges and panels on the casts to keep the honest people honest....LOL

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ME TOO...........I HERE THAT ALOT WHEN ONE GUY SEE COON THAT ARE NOT THERE SOMEONE ELSE WILL SAY ME TOO....PLUS IT ...MOST OF THE TIME ITS THEM GOOD OLD BOYS ....