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Posted by Cynthia on 10-09-2013 06:37 PM:

Majestic,

this was using 16oz of Pyrantel mixture you shared above:
Each Ml of this Mixture contains :
1- 50 mg of Pyrantel Pamoate
2- 50 mg of Praziquantel
3- 0.050 mg of Ivermectin

Ivermectin: Remember only .1 mg per Pound is all that is required for Ivermectin to Control Some GI Parisites "Worms"

I cant find the per ml of mixture using the 32oz of Pyrantel mixture shared on page 1.

My question is: how is the mixture dosage of Ivermectin of 0.05 be effective if the proper dosage of Ivermectin 0.1?

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 10-10-2013 12:34 AM:

Ivermectin just isn't as effective on worms as these other 2 Meds, so the Ivermectin is only dosed at the level to control and prevent Heart worms ..

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Posted by Kevin Pruemer on 10-10-2013 01:11 AM:

Thanks for your help STeve! Works great

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 10-10-2013 06:23 PM:

A whole lot of hound owners are using this and all have had very good results.. Our hounds as well ..

Posted by gottabered on 10-10-2013 11:35 PM:

yES THANK YOU STEVE

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Posted by Joey Butler on 10-13-2013 04:48 PM:

Steve how old should pups be before starting on this wormer .
My buddy an myself have been using this wormer for over 6 months only trouble we have now is keeping dogs from getting to fat .

Thanks Steve

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 10-13-2013 06:39 PM:

I only use Safe-guard "Goat" Liquid on the little kids from 2-3 week up to 4 months the Switch them over to the mixed wormer ..

Posted by Joey Butler on 10-13-2013 06:42 PM:

Thanks steve

Posted by coach isaacs on 11-06-2013 04:13 AM:

I ordered the praziquantel but its 50 grams. Can you please explain again how to mix with this amount?

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-11-2013 04:23 AM:

16 OZ BOTTLE OF PYRANTEL
HOW TO MIX IF YOU HAVE 50 GR CAN OF PRAZIQUANTEL?
HOW MUCH IVOMEC ? ADDED TO THIS MIX?

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Posted by Smoking_Bluedog on 11-11-2013 12:37 PM:

valbazen

What's your thoughts on albendazole (sp) I've seen where a lot if guys mix it with ivermectin just curious

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-11-2013 01:44 PM:

Remember the Dosage is 1 ML per 14 pounds of Dog weight and you can dosage at 1 ml per 10 pounds with no problems and still stay within Merck's Veterinary guidelines .

In a Fresh Clean/Sterile Bottle that can Hold around 24 oz. of liquid add the Entire 16 oz. bottle of Pyrantel Pamoate Suspension.
Add the 6 level Table spoons + 1 Tea spoon of Praziquantel, quantity is 23,500 mg. Add
all the powder to the 24 oz bottle of Pyrantel Pamoate Suspension.
Next Draw off around 2.36 cc/ml of Ivermectin and add that to the Bottle of Mixture .. Shake the Bottle for 3-4 min. Plus shake continence before each dog dosage.

Finished Product:

Each Ml of this Mixture contains :
1- 50 mg of Pyrantel Pamoate
2- 50 mg of Praziquantel
3- 0.050 mg of Ivermectin

Dosage:

Each ml/cc will treat 14 pounds of dog weight . So a 60 pound would receive 4.25 ml/cc of the Mixture ..

Formula for Dosage is ( Total Dog weight / "Divided" by 14 )

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-11-2013 05:59 PM:

Add the 6 level Table spoons + 1 Tea spoon of Praziquantel and Remove 1 level Teaspoon of the Powder, quantity is 23,500 mg.

This is what I don't understand, maybe I'm missing something, but why do you add the + 1 teaspoon and then then remove 1 teaspoon of power? Why wouldn't just add the 6 tablespoons ?

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-11-2013 11:30 PM:

Glad you Caught that Seeker !! I had copied a older post and modified it .. My Brain is totally fried from Lipitor !! Bad Stuff !!

Remember the Dosage is 1 ML per 14 pounds of Dog weight and you can dosage at 1 ml per 10 pounds with no problems and still stay within Merck's Veterinary guidelines .

In a Fresh Clean/Sterile Bottle that can Hold around 24 oz. of liquid add the Entire 16 oz. bottle of Pyrantel Pamoate Suspension.
Add the 6 level Table spoons + 1 Tea spoon of Praziquantel , quantity is 23,500 mg. Add
all the powder to the 24 oz bottle of Pyrantel Pamoate Suspension.
Next Draw off around 2.36 cc/ml of Ivermectin and add that to the Bottle of Mixture .. Shake the Bottle for 3-4 min. Plus shake continence before each dog dosage.

Finished Product:

Each Ml of this Mixture contains :
1- 50 mg of Pyrantel Pamoate
2- 50 mg of Praziquantel
3- 0.050 mg of Ivermectin

Dosage:

Each ml/cc will treat 14 pounds of dog weight . So a 60 pound would receive 4.25 ml/cc of the Mixture ..

Formula for Dosage is ( Total Dog weight / "Divided" by 14 )

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-13-2013 02:49 AM:

Thanks, I know what you mean about Lipitor. I was on it for a while and Quit , I told the doc no more so he changed me to Simvastatin, generic for Zocor. At least it only costs about $10 a month. I do know if I would have known I had to keep this body this long, I sure would have taken better care of it when I was young. LOL! Too soon old, to late smart!
Thanks for the information on the wormer.

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-13-2013 03:08 PM:

Well Seeker I just quit my 3rd Statin Drug !!! My Body hurt so bad yesterday I could hardly get out of bed !! Lipitor made me so confused that I have almost lost my Job, plus my Hips and knees ached all the time .. The one I quit yesterday was Pravastatin (Pravastatin) at is lowest dosage .. Felt like knifes in my Back ..

I had 2 stents put in the left side of my heart and the right side is 85% blocked and they were trying with Meds to reduce that one ..

It hell getting old !! lol

Posted by Smoking_Bluedog on 11-13-2013 03:33 PM:

valbazen

Steve just wondering if you've done any research on valbazen? Looks like you've done a lot of research on wormers. I've used safe-guard ivermectin for years started having problems this past spring with tapes so switched to valbazen and ivomec and plan to mix your wormer soon just curious what your thoughts were on valbazen

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-13-2013 05:04 PM:

Yes I have compared valbazen (Albendazole), and found that it in the same family as Praziquantel

The only difference is the Cost to make this mixture and dosage per dog in Much less then Valbazen

The Actual Dosage Required For Canine Tape worm and others is VERY hard to Find ..

Merck Vet Manual does not state the Dosage for Canine worming ..

But I did find this one ..

http://zooveterinary.com/drugs/albe...lbenza-valbazen

And I would Guess it could be as high as 8-10mg per pound .

Valbazen contains 113 mg per ml .

So one ml should treat around 10-12 pounds of dog weight and MUST be given over a 3 day period and Repeated two week later.

Cost is about $40 per 500 ml so about $0.08 per ml .

to dose a 60 lb dog over 3 days is = $1.44 .. Not bad but still need Heart worm protection ..

How to use Albendazole

Albendazole dosage for dogs:

For Filaroides hirthi infections:

a) 50 mg/kg q12h PO for 5 days; repeat in 21 days. Clinical signs may suddenly worsen during therapy, presumably due to a reaction to worm death. ()

b) 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 5 days; may repeat in 2 weeks (also for Oslerus osleri) ()

For Filaroides osleri (also known as Oslerus osleri) infections:

a) 9.5 mg/kg for 55 days or 25 mg/kg PO twice daily for 5 days.

Repeat therapy in 2 weeks. ()

For Capillaria plica:

a) 50 mg/kg q12h for 10-14 days. May cause anorexia. ()

For Paragonimus kellicotti:

a) 50 mg/kg PO per day for 21 days ()

b) 30 mg/kg once daily for 12 days ()

c) 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 14 days ()

For Giardia:

a) 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 4 doses ()

b) 25 mg/kg PO twice daily for 5 days ()

c) 25 mg/kg PO twice daily for 2- 5 days ()

For Leishmaniasis:

a) 10 mg/kg PO once daily for 30 days or 5 mg/kg PO q6h for 60 days ()

Albendazole dosage for cats:

For Paragonimus kellicotti:

a) 50 mg/kg PO per day for 21 days ()

b) 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 10-21 days ()

c) 30 mg/kg once a day for 6 days ()

d) 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 14 days ()

For Giardia:

a) 25 mg/kg PO twice daily for 5 days ()

b) 25 mg/kg PO q12h for 3-5 days; may cause bone marrow suppression in dogs and cats. ()

Posted by RatDog on 11-13-2013 09:42 PM:

wormer

What are y'all using to mix and store your wormer in??

Posted by Smoking_Bluedog on 11-14-2013 09:52 AM:

Thanks steve I believe I'm gonna go ahead order what I need for your mix and rotate with valbazen til I finish it off

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-26-2013 05:43 PM:

I have only 4 dogs and I figured out a smaller batch of the mixture. I hope this is right.

8 oz (one cup ) pyrantel pamoate.
3 tablespoons plus 1/2 teaspoon of praziquantel.
1.18 cc Ivermectin.

Anyone right or wrong?
the more I figure the worse I get.LOL!

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 11-26-2013 06:04 PM:

That looks right !!

Posted by Cynthia on 11-26-2013 06:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The Seeker
I have only 4 dogs and I figured out a smaller batch of the mixture. I hope this is right.

8 oz (one cup ) pyrantel pamoate.
3 tablespoons plus 1/2 teaspoon of praziquantel.
1.18 cc Ivermectin.

Anyone right or wrong?
the more I figure the worse I get.LOL!

what is the individual dosage amt per dog? amount in syringe?

Posted by Bob Hennessey on 11-26-2013 06:42 PM:

The way I figured it would still be 1cc for 14 pounds of dog.
The same amounts of each wormer as in the larger mixture.
Total weight of dog divided by 14.
60# dog 4.25cc/ml

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Posted by RON DEKON on 12-11-2013 12:20 PM:

btt

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