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Majestic Tree H
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Dog Wormers "End All to Be ALL" LOL Ivermectin ect

Ivermectin !!!!!!

Ivermectin Only Prevents Heartworms and 3 types of Hookworm in Dogs (Canines) A caninum, A braziliense, U stenocephala . That’s ALL the Parasites this Medication Will Prevent/Control/Kill in DOGs.

The Total Dosage of Ivermectin Required to Prevent Heartworms is .006 Mg per # of Dog Weight .. i.e.: a 50# dog would receive a Dosage of .03 MG of 1% Ivermectin Solution or .03 CC/ML .. If you Use a Insulin Syringe which is only 1cc/ml it would be the 3rd. mark ..

At this Exact same Dosage of Ivermectin it will control and Kill 2 species of Hookworm in Canines A braziliense, U stenocephala, to Kill and Control A caninum at a 97% rate it requires a Dosage of .0122 Mg per # of Dog Weight .. I.e.: a 50# dog would receive a Dosage of .61cc/ml .. At this Point It much Better to Use Fenbendazole (SafeGuard or Pancur) or Pyrantel pamoate (Nemex 2 )

Efficacy of ivermectin against Ancylostoma caninum and Uncinaria stenocephala in dogs.
Daurio CP, Roberson EL, Seward RL.
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Merck Research Laboratories, Rahway, New Jersey 07065.

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The effective dosage of a chewable formulation of ivermectin was determined in 35 young dogs with induced infections of Ancylostoma caninum and Uncinaria stenocephala. Dogs were inoculated with these parasites and held until the infections were patent. Within each of 7 replicates, dogs were allocated randomly to 1 of 5 treatment groups: vehicle control, or ivermectin at 6, 12, 18, or 24 micrograms/kg. Chewable treatments were tailored to body weight. Seven or 8 days after treatment, parasites were recovered using standard techniques. All 7 controls had adult A. caninum (geometric mean = 35.5) and U. stenocephala (geometric mean = 82.6). Against A. caninum, the efficacy of ivermectin was 52%, 98%, 95%, and 97% at 6, 12, 18, and 24 micrograms/kg, respectively. The statistical model that best described the dose response was linear to 12 micrograms/kg with a plateau thereafter. Using this model, the estimated reduction from the predicted control mean was 97.2%; the estimated dose to eliminate 90% of the worms (ED90) was 8.4 micrograms/kg, and the ED95 was 10.5 micrograms/kg. Against U. stenocephala, the dose response was linear in the range studied, with an ED90 of 20.8 micrograms/kg; it was estimated that 93.2% of the worms would be eliminated.



For the Fokes that Think that the Horse Wormers / Paste is the End All to All Worms ...

Zimecterin Gold ... Measured at the same weights noted on the Tube contains .091 Mg per Pound of Ivermectin and the Maxium Dosage of For a Dog to Kill all 3 types of Hookworms plus Prevent Heartworms is .0122 Mg. SO Zimecterin Gold Contains 7.42 Times More Ivermectin Than Any Dog needs to Control the Exact same Parasites and No more .

Zimecterin Gold ... Measured at the same weights noted on the Tube contains .454 Mg per Pound of Praziquantel which only Controls/Kills Adult "Horse Type" Tape Worm "Anoplocephala perfolita" which is Not Related to the Canine Type Tape Worms D caninum, T pisiformis, Echinococcus granulosus, E multilocularis ( Flea Host Tapeworm, Rabbit Host Tapeworm, Deer Feces Host Tapeworm, Fox, Coyote Host "Canis" Feces Tapeworm )

In order to Control/Kill the Canine Type Tapeworms require a Dosage of 2.5 Mg to 6 Mg. Per Pound of Praziquantel Meaning Zimecterin Gold is 7 times Less per pound that is Require to Treat Canine Tapeworms ..

Equimax ... Measured at the same weights noted on the Tube contains .109 Mg per Pound of Ivermectin and the Maxium Dosage of For a Dog to Kill all 3 types of Hookworms plus Prevent Heartworms is .0122 Mg. SO Equimax Contains 8.3 Times More Ivermectin Than Any Dog needs to Control the Exact same Parasites and No more .

Equimax ... Measured at the same weights noted on the Tube contains .987 Mg per Pound of Praziquantel which only Controls/Kills Adult "Horse Type" Tape Worm "Anoplocephala perfolita" which is Not Related to the Canine Type Tape Worms D caninum, T pisiformis, Echinococcus granulosus, E multilocularis ( Flea Host Tapeworm, Rabbit Host Tapeworm, Deer Feces Host Tapeworm, Fox, Coyote Host "Canis" Feces Tapeworm )

In order to Control/Kill the Canine Type Tapeworms require a Dosage of 2.5 Mg to 6 Mg. Per Pound of Praziquantel Meaning Equimax is 3 times Less per pound that is Require to Treat Canine Tapeworms ..

So to Sum it All up Ivermectin Only Works to Prevent Heartworms / and Will Kill all 3 Types of Adult Hookworms found in Canines ..

Horse Wormers !!!! Have way more Ivermectin then is Required to Prevent Heartworms/Adult Hookworms and Way too less Prazinquantel to Kill Adult Canine Type Tape Worms ..

And are NOT effective in Controlling or Killing Roundworms and Whipworms ...

If you Look in the Table Below the Only Additional Hookworm that Ivermectin will control over Pyrantel Promoate is The "Southern Hookworm" A braziliense .. Hookworms are found throughout North America, although A. braziliense is more common in semitropical and tropical areas, and U. stenocephala in the colder north. Their life cycle has an unusual twist – animals can be infected by ingestion of larvae either from contaminated soil or water; by eating an infected transport host; through larvae penetrating their skin, and by larvae infecting fetuses or the young via the uterus or mammary glands.

Remember All Dosages in the Below Table are in Mg per Kg of Dog Weight . to Convert to Mg. per Pound just devide to Dosage X 2.2

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Brands " SafeGuard " and " Panacur "

Fenbendazole : Controls Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina, Ancylostoma caninum, Uncinaria stenocephala, Trichuris vulpis, T pisiformis

( Roundworm, Roundworm T2, Hookworm, Whipworm, Rabbit Host Tapeworm Ingestion Transfer)

This is a Very Good Wormer But is Lacking the Control of A braziliense (Southern Hookworm), D caninum, Echinococcus granulosus, E multilocularis ( Flea Host Tapeworm, Deer Feces Host Tapeworm, Fox, Coyote Host "Canis" Feces Tapeworm )

And For Some Reason (Further Studies Required) This Drug can Not be Combined with other Wormers.

Total Cost per Pound of Body Weight in it least expansive Form "SafeGuard Liquid Suspension" i.e.: SafeGuard Goat / Cattle wormer .. at a Dosage of 23 Mg per Pound and theres 100 Mg per Ml/CC

Cost is $0.12 per Ml/CC = 100 Mg . you can treat 4.35 pounds of Dog weight But Requires a 3 day Treatment Period .

Total Treatment Cost for 3 Days per Pound is around $.09 i.e.: a 50 pound dog would cost $4.50 for a total treatment .

But remember you have not treated for 3 types of the most Common Tape Worm or the rarer Hookworm A braziliense (Southern Hookworm)

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then what covers those tapeworms?

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Brands " Pyrantel " and " Nemex II "

Pyrantel Pamoate : Controls T canis, T leonina, A caninum, U stenocephala

( Roundworm, Roundworm T2, Hookworm, Hookworm T2 Canine Host )

This is a Very Good Wormer But is Lacking the Control of A braziliense (Southern Hookworm), D caninum, T pisiformis, Echinococcus granulosus, E multilocularis ( Flea Host Tapeworm, Rabbit Host Tapeworm, Deer Feces Host Tapeworm, Fox, Coyote Host "Canis" Feces Tapeworm )

This Drug Can be Combined with other Wormers to be more Effective .

Total Cost per Pound of Body Weight in it least expansive Form Pyrantel 50 Liquid Suspension wormer .. at a Dosage of 2.5 Mg per Pound and theres 50 Mg per Ml/CC

Cost is $0.035 per Ml/CC = 50 Mg . you can treat 20 pounds of Dog weight.

Total Treatment Cost for 3 Days per Pound is around $.09 i.e.: a 50 pound dog would cost $0.09 for a total treatment .

But remember you have not treated for 4 types of the most Common Tape Worm or the rarer Hookworm A braziliense (Southern Hookworm).

By Adding Praziquantel and Ivermectin to this Product you Would have a Complete Wormer/Heartworm Preventive for Canines .

The Very Best Price I have Found for Pyrantel is at this Site : http://www.amazon.com/Neogen-Pyrant...z/dp/B00061MVMS

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Originally posted by brittanernst
then what covers those tapeworms?


Praziquantel :
At a Dosage of of 2.5 Mg to 6 Mg per Pound will Kill Adult D caninum, T pisiformis, Echinococcus granulosus, E multilocularis ( Flea Host Tapeworm, Rabbit Host Tapeworm, Deer Feces Host Tapeworm, Fox, Coyote Host "Canis" Feces Tapeworm )

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Dog that May Eat Raccoon POOP !!!

Now here is a roundworm you do not hear that much about, and hopefully you will never meet. But if you do, it is serious. Baylisascaris procyonis is a roundworm of raccoons. It does not cause severe disease in raccoons except in the young who may develop intestinal obstructions. The real hazard is when it infects humans or dogs. In man, it causes a condition called 'neural larva migrans,' or 'cerebrospinal nematodiasis.' This is a rare disease, but is serious and often fatal.
Besides dogs and humans, there are 17 other species of mammals and 19 species of birds that can serve as intermediate hosts of B. procyonis. In raccoons, B. procyonis lives in the small intestine. In man, dogs, and intermediate hosts, B. procyonis invades body organs, the central nervous system (CNS), and the eyes.

How common is B. procyonis?

One researcher suggests that B. procyonis infections account for 5% of rodent deaths in woodlots where infected raccoons are common.
B. procyonis is found throughout North America. In the Midwest, over half of the raccoons studied were infested. The prevalence of B. procyonis decreases from northern to southern states.

Wormer Treatments : Baylisascaris procyonis "Roundworms" in dogs, e.g., piperazine, pyrantel pamoate, and fenbendazole. The efficacy of ivermectin is unknown.

ANYBODY that Handles Raccoons May Be or Could be Effected with this Worm ... The Pyrantel Pamoate I listed above is For Human Consumtion and the Dosage is listed on the Bottle ...

So if you Feel the Need to Scoot your ARS across the Floor it wouldn't hurt to Dose Yourself !!!! lol


What is the treatment for B. procyonis infection?

This is the really scary part. There is currently no treatment for B. procyonis infection in man or domestic animals. Even if a treatment is later identified, its benefit will be of questionable value since much of the damage already done by the migrating larvae is permanent.

If larvae are seen in the retina, it is sometimes possible to destroy them through laser therapy. But, again, much of the damage is permanent and eyesight may or may not improve.

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I have been Researching and Researching on The Combination of Fenbendazole and Praziquantel Which would be a Good Wormer Option .. I have only Found an Appication to the Gov. for this Mix of wormers But was never Granted ?? The Name was to be Zantel Intestional Wormer for Dogs and Cats ..
Zantel went on to Market with another Ing. ZENTEL 200 mg tablet contains 200 mg albendazole.

http://www.apvma.gov.au/advice_summaries/36334.pdf


http://books.google.com/books?id=OB...ers&f=false


Another broad-spectrum anthelinintic which has apparently received some attention recently. Albendazale is the name of the active ingredient in the livestock dewormer Valbazen, manufactured by Pfizer Animal Health. It is available in paste form and as a drench (11.36 % suspension in liquid).
Although it has FDA approval for use in dogs, it has been found to be effective against a number of canine intestinal parasites. The drug has excellent activity against Whipworms and the common
hookworm and roundworm of dogs. It is also effective in treating one type of tapeworm, Taenia, and a less common protozoal parasite called Giardia.
The Tapeworm segments, or Proglattids, which are visible in an infected dog’s stool, contain eggs which are not directly contagious to another dog. These eggs must first be ingested by an intermediate host, in which they develop to another stage of their life cycle, and then be ingested by another dog before adult tapeworm can be developed by that dog. For Taeniid Tapeworms, the intermediate host can be a number of mammals, including rabbits. Diprylidium caninum, the species of tapeworm using the flea as its intermediate host, is apparently not as effectively killed by the use of Albendazale. Other tapeworm medication is necessary to treat dogs infected with this type of tapeworm.
The recommended dosage of Valbazen suspension needed to kill susceptible parasites is 25 mg 1 kg, given orally 2 times a day and continued for 2 or 3 consecutive days (2 days is adequate for treating giardiasis; 3 days is probably necessary for other parasites). When using Valbazen suspension, each dose would be about I cc per 10 lbs. of body weight, or 3 cc for a 30 lb. beagle. It is not considered safe for use in pregnancy, and whenever this product is used in any dog, it is considered extra-label usage, not officially recommended by the manufacturer and not approved by the
FDA.

Cost per Ml/CC is around $0.074 . Dosage is at 12 Mg per Pound or 1cc per 10 pounds over a 3 day Treatment TWO times per Day !!!

Total of the 3 day Treatment Cost for a 50 Pound dog is $2.22

http://www.jefferspet.com/valbazen/camid/liv/cp/16387/
Local Co-ops may have it cheeper plus no Shipping charge

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Good post , and there's that high dollar tapeworm pill that I think is a must every now and then ... even gave it to dogs with those mystery issues as far as weight gain is concerned and turns out that's what it is alot of the time .


Good health .. wormers , dog food , etc ... effects your hunting more than most folks would think ...

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WORMERS

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I use Nemex 2 on all my pups and I give them a dose of Ivermec when they turn 8 weeks old and I can tell you for 100% fact that Ivermec does indeed kill round worms. I personally think it kills them better than Nemex does. Based on what I've witnessed with my own eyes, raising my own pups for the last 20 years I don't agree with your assessment that Ivermec only kills heart and hook worms.

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Does the wormer have a yellow tent to it?

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First To Save You Alot of Money !!!

Nemex 2 Liquid Ingredients .. Contains 4.54 mg/mL of Pyrantel base as Pyrantel pamoate.

Dosage of Nemex 2.. Liquid: Give 1 tsp per 10 lbs body weight.
COST $$
Liquid, 2oz .. $11.49 - 5 Ml to the Teaspoon . total Ml 59.14 per bottle

Cost per ML = $0.195

Cost per pound for Treatment $0.10

Liquid, 16oz .. $61.99 -5 Ml to the Teaspoon . total Ml 473 per bottle

Cost per ML = $0.13

Cost per pound for Treatment $0.065

Total Cost to Treat a 50# Dog = $3.25


http://www.revivalanimal.com/Nemex-...Nemex-Tabs.html


Compaired to Pyrantel Pamoate Suspension

Pyrantel Pamoate Liquid: Contains 50 mg/mL of Pyrantel base as Pyrantel pamoate.

Dosage .. Liquid: Give 2.5-5 Mg per 1 lbs body weight.

COST $$
Liquid, 16oz .. $19.99 - total Ml 473 per bottle

Cost per ML = $0.042

Cost per pound for Treatment $0.0042

Total Cost to Treat a 50# Dog = $0.21

http://www.revivalanimal.com/Pyrantel-50mg.html

These are the Exact Same "Active" Ingredients in both Products


"I can tell you for 100% fact that Ivermec does indeed kill round worms"

Merk Vet Manual plus 2 other Vet Manuals that I have avb.. Never Mentions that Ivermectin with Kill Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina The 2 most Common types of Canine Round Worm Plus the roundworm known as Baylisascaris that is adapted to survive within raccoons. ..

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I can not find a single Trial of Ivermectin Alone Dealing with These 2 Round Worm Types ... All the Trials Add Pyrantel to work on the Round worms

"Efficacy of ivermectin against Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina"


Efficacy of ivermectin and pyrantel pamoate combined in a chewable formulation against heartworm, hookworm, and ascarid infections in dogs.

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Clark JN, Daurio CP, Plue RE, Wallace DH,
Longhofer SL
Merck, Sharp & Dohme Research Laboratories, Division of Merck & Co Inc, Rahway, NJ 07065-0900.

American Journal of Veterinary Research [1992, 53(4):517-520]

Type: Clinical Trial, Journal Article, Randomized Controlled Trial

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Eight trials were conducted in dogs to document the efficacy of ivermectin (6 micrograms/kg of body weight) and pyrantel pamoate (5 mg of active pyrantel/kg) in a beef-based chewable formulation against Dirofilaria immitis, Ancylostoma caninum, Uncinaria stenocephala, Toxocara canis, and Toxascaris leonina. Three studies involved induced infection with D immitis, and 5 studies involved induced or natural infection with hookworms and ascarids. In 3 intestinal parasite trials, the efficacy of the combination chewable tablet was compared with each of its components. Results indicated that 1 component did not interfere with the activity of the other. In 1 heartworm and 2 intestinal parasite trials, the efficacy of pyrantel, ivermectin/pyrantel combination, or ivermectin with pyrantel dosage of 10 mg/kg was evaluated. The ivermectin/pyrantel combination was 100% effective in preventing development of D immitis larvae. Efficacy of the combined product against T canis, Toxascaris leonina, A caninum, and U stenocephala was 90.1, 99.2, 98.5, and 98.7%, respectively. In the intestinal parasite trials, each individual component was found not to interfere with the anthelmintic action of the other. Increasing the dosage of pyrantel to 10 mg/kg (2 x that in the combination) did not interfere with the efficacy of ivermectin against heartworm or increase the activity of pyrantel against intestinal parasites.

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http://www.thedogplace.org/parasite...rs-for-dogs.asp

Here is someone who agrees with me. You do realize Ivermect is used to treat round worms in cattle, swine, and humans. I know what I have seen with my own eyes, no vet book will convince me otherwise.

If you like I'll take a picture for you with my next litter, I have no reason to lie.

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http://www.thedogplace.org/parasite...rs-for-dogs.asp

Here is someone who agrees with me. You do realize Ivermect is used to treat round worms in cattle, swine, and humans. I know what I have seen with my own eyes, no vet book will convince me otherwise.

If you like I'll take a picture for you with my next litter, I have no reason to lie.



There Still not Talking about Canine Roundworms .. In Cattle Yes Totaly Different Speicies ...

I have Absolutly NO Reason to Lead Anyone Atray on this Issue .. There is nothing anywhere that Ivermectin has any effect on the Only 2 Types Canine Roundworms ..

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So a website called the dog place on a page called dog wormers list is not talking about canine roundworms. OK.......

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Read the Astirk

Plus You Stated Above that You Dose your Pups with Pyrantel (Nemex) First and if you dose weekly as Nemex is labled then Yes you are Kill out the Roundworms and by 8 weeks they should be Clear ..

I don't Know Where " the Author Fred Lantings" found his Info on Ivermectin and Round Worms ???

He Stated his Finding came from

http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proc...02&PID=2984

If you Look at Table 1. of that site Ivermectin and go to the Roundworm Section you will see a Astrik ******

That is this * *ivermectin/pyrantel pamoate

So I call BS on Fred Lantings !!!!! and his dosages of Ivermectin of Roundworms .. And I will write him and tell him so !!!

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To the best of my knowledge Nemex is and has always been labeled 2,3,4,6,8,10 weeks. I worm weeks 2 - 6 with Nemex on week 8 I worm with Ivomec. Not everytime, but on some occasions, the pups have passed round worms after the 8 week worming. I have also seen older dogs pass roundworms when given Ivomec at a dose of 1/10 cc per 10 pounds or slighter greater. I know this to be 100% fact because I have done this myself. It is not hearsay or out of a book, I've done it and I've seen it.

You may also want to re-read the site. The * simply states that the ivomec he is referring to is not labeled for use in dogs and he did not state he got his info from the link but that you can find additional info at the link.

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OK,I have been useing Ivercare 1.87% paste,one .26 oz(7.3) gram tube to eight dogs,average 50 lbs every 60 days. I also use panacure every other 60 days,1 tube for eight dogs.I thought I had it all figured out,my dogs seem worm free.My vet(a farm vet) recomended panacure paste for a hook worm outbreak years ago.When ever I read your post I second guess myself,but I have to stick with what seems to be workin.Thanks for your posts.

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Wormer

How often should you worm a dog?

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Im going to have to do some searc ing on my computer (typing on phone now) but I am 100% positve I have the results of a real study (not a back yard deal) that was done that had shown ivermectin to effectivly kill canine round worms and whip worms. ... but unlike the above studies it was using a dosgae higher than the recommended heartworm dose to work. It actually used several different dosages and a comparison of what was actually controlled by that particular dosage in the study. However, if my memory serves me, it was a lesser percentage killed but that was attributed to the fact of where the particular worms take up residency within the dogs intestines and other wormers had the same issues with a complete kill?

Im going to have to agree with k. Singletary as far as results that I have experienced first hand as well. All I use is ivermectin and equimax on a 3-4 month rotation. I do realize that it is a much larger ivermectin dosage than your typical "heartworm" dosage delivered for the proper Praziquantel dosage but I have experienced absolutely no issues whatsoever and have discussed it extensively with my veterinarian. Im not recommending anything to anyone because most of this entire thread is regarding "off label" usage and even using a drug as labeled can result in adverse side effects. So to each their own. But I will say I can not remeber the last time I have had a dog have any worm related issues or have even had a dog with a positive worm test of any kind so something must be working! LoL

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Re: Wormer

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How often should you worm a dog?


It is usually recommended that a dog be given a heartworm medication monthly and an adult dog wormed for intestinal worms every 3-4 months. But this is all relative to your climate how/where your dogs are kept, their exposure and what you are actually using as a wormer.

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OK after all the Research Exp. About that Raccoon Roundworm " I GOT ALL FREAKED OUT " I'm 5' 11-1/2" Tall and Only Weigh 165#s for the Past 5 years I have weighed the Exact same weight No Matter what I eat !!

Well I had bought some 500mg Mebendazole for the Dogs !! But its made for Humans !! Lemon Flavour !! Well I gave myself a Dose and I'l let you know the Out come !! ..

I could have just done a Fecal float on my poop but just couldn't do it !! LOL


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Best Buy in The World !!! I have ordered 3 times fro this Co. in China and have recieved my orders within 12 days !! and they always throw in something else for Free !!

Praziquantel- 50 tablets 200mg Dog Cat Fish Horse tape wormer (Praziquantel)

This is The Real Thing

$16.86 with Free Shipping !!!


Praziquantel is primarily used against parasites known as "Cestodes" (tapeworms). The common tapeworm of dogs and cats, dipyllidium caninum (carried by fleas), is most often the problem needing treated, though Praziquantel is also effective against less common types of tapeworms. Also effective against flukes and other nasties in fish, and is used often in horses. Safeguard or Panacur (Fenbendazole), Pyrantel Pamoate, Ivermectin, and other wormers do not kill the common tapeworm (carried by fleas), as often found in pets. The exact same Praziquantel is used for dogs, cats, fish, horses, sheep, goats, and many other animals, but doses vary by species. You could overdose many times without ill effects since Praziquantel is very safe, but proper dosing is recommended. Pets should be 4 weeks or older to worm for tapeworms.



Dogs and cats get tapeworms from ingesting fleas while grooming themselves. The tapeworm is released from the digested flea and attaches itself to the intestine and starts absorbing nutrients. Some people treat their pets for tapeworms routinely, at least once or twice a year. However, treatment when tapeworms are indicated in fecal deposits is best. You might sometimes observe small (1/4 inch long or so) white narrow flat segments in the stool. These may be seen to slowly move, contracting then expanding in length. These tapeworms grow to about six inches long in the small intestine - only small segments are excreted. When dried up in old pet stools these tapeworm segments may look like grains of rice. You know your pet has tapeworms when you see tiny segments that look like a grain of rice around the rectum of your pet. You might also see short segments in the stools. Dragging the anus on the floor or ground can be due to tapeworms (or other causes). Such Tapeworms can only be treated by Praziquantel and it only takes one treatment (mix in food or put in mouth). However, your pet may not show a sign of tapeworms, and yet have them - keep looking at different times for they may show just occasionally. Best to treat all your pets at the same time to eliminate future transmission from untreated to treated pets. Tapeworms are the least harmful parasite for your pet, so don't be alarmed if you see signs of them - no need to rush to treat right away. However, they do cause mild nutritional deficits (some people report that tapeworms cause a dull coat that improves after treatment).

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