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Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
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I can go on and on about the Hounds of the Mediterranean /North Africa Region.

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QUOTE:For the record...the blood supply, IE veins in a dogs ears is only meant to supply oxygen to the ear tissue. Cooling the neck of a mammal cools the blood in the cartoid artery...this is a main artery that circulates allot of blood through out a body. Ear veins cannot be compared to the cartoid artery. I would have thought that everyone knew that. I guess when you want a true surprise, have a look at intelligence on an internet message board.


THAT IS TRUE FOR ARTIFICAL COOLING,EVEN IN HUMANS,BUT ONE NATURAL WAY THE BODY COOLS ITSELF IS BE DIALITING OR RESTRICTING BLOOD VESSELS IN THE BODY IN THE OUTER EXTRIMETIES,THEREFORE IT STANDS TO REASON THAT THE BIGGER THE OR LONGER THE EARS OF SAY A DOG OR ANY OTHER MAMALE WOULD IN FACT ACK AS NATURALY ACCOURING BODILY COOLING FUNCTION.............BASIC 8TH GRADE BIOLOGY.
THE THOUSANDS OF VIENS IN THE BODY DO IN FACT FEED THE SEVERAL MAIN ARTERIES OF THE BODY,AGAIN BASIC 8TH GRADE BIOLOGY

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Originally posted by V. Cannon
Reading this thread is kinda like watching the three stooges, entertaining but not very educational.

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Originally posted by mjflores
Funny, if your twisted logic were true wouldn't you just stick an ice cube in each ear on a hot dog or horse? Your horse reference is particularly disturbing...you argue that ears are for cooling...yet you state that you cool a horse by wrapping cool cloth around it's neck and legs. Does a horses ears share the same amount of body surface as it's neck and tail? I'm not sure where you're from, but around here no horse has 20 foot long ears.

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Originally posted by cedarhillkennel
QUOTE:For the record...the blood supply, IE veins in a dogs ears is only meant to supply oxygen to the ear tissue. Cooling the neck of a mammal cools the blood in the cartoid artery...this is a main artery that circulates allot of blood through out a body. Ear veins cannot be compared to the cartoid artery. I would have thought that everyone knew that. I guess when you want a true surprise, have a look at intelligence on an internet message board.


THAT IS TRUE FOR ARTIFICAL COOLING,EVEN IN HUMANS,BUT ONE NATURAL WAY THE BODY COOLS ITSELF IS BE DIALITING OR RESTRICTING BLOOD VESSELS IN THE BODY IN THE OUTER EXTRIMETIES,THEREFORE IT STANDS TO REASON THAT THE BIGGER THE OR LONGER THE EARS OF SAY A DOG OR ANY OTHER MAMALE WOULD IN FACT ACK AS NATURALY ACCOURING BODILY COOLING FUNCTION.............BASIC 8TH GRADE BIOLOGY.
THE THOUSANDS OF VIENS IN THE BODY DO IN FACT FEED THE SEVERAL MAIN ARTERIES OF THE BODY,AGAIN BASIC 8TH GRADE BIOLOGY

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Originally posted by Plottluvr
I think you need to reread what I put. I did not say you wrap bandages around the horses neck. I said you put cold water on its neck and wrap its legs with cold, wet bandages.

Mr Flores. You seem to be the one who lacks intelligence here. The veins on the dogs ears help to cool the dog. NOT the length of its ears. You really need to pay more attention to what people say and NOT what you want to read. Stop putting your own spin on things and pay attention.

My "argument" as you call it is for DOGS....not horses. As a matter of fact I have used ice cubes wrapped in paper towel on a dogs ears, under the legs etc to help cool them down. It works great.

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History Lesson & Scientific Facts of how dogs scent

Coonhounds can trace its ancestry from the Irish and French hounds that were brought to the U. S. These dogs were first known as the English foxhound as they were originally used to hunt fox during the day and raccoons at night. The hound was first mentioned in a diary owned by one of explorer deSotto's men. It was mentioned that rather than hunting fox and raccoons, the dogs were used to hunt Indians. Virginia Hounds were developed from the hounds that were brought by Robert Brooke, an Englishman in 1650, from the English hounds imported to Virginia by Thomas Walker in 1742 and from the hounds imported by George Washington in 1770.
However the hunting dogs that were developed proved to be inadequate to the hunting needs of the Americans. Americans hunted animals that crawled up in trees. Unfortunately, the dogs that were developed do not have the treeing ability. The hounds would lose the scent once the prey has crawled up a tree. The hound was then crossed with the bloodhound to improve the scenting ability. Through careful and selective breeding, the American English Coonhound was developed. Apart from having a much improved scenting ability, the dog has great strength and pain endurance that makes it adapt to the harsh American terrain.
The key to the hound's superior ability to track by scent lies in its enlarged olfactory system and long flapping ears specifically designed to funnel and push air and scents toward the dogs' olfactory system. The hounds ears and jowl flaps also play a vital role in scent detection, capturing and collecting scents to be delivered to the nasal chambers for analysis.
So for those of you who like your short eared dogs, keep em, use em, just know that your not bettering the breed of your coondog by breeding for short ears, your "hurting" the whole purpose of why they were originally bred, to have long ears.... for superior abilities to track scent. If you dont care about meeting your breed standards then why do you even own a UKC registered dog? Makes me wonder...

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Originally posted by cherrytrees
Coonhounds can trace its ancestry from the Irish and French hounds that were brought to the U. S. These dogs were first known as the English foxhound as they were originally used to hunt fox during the day and raccoons at night. The hound was first mentioned in a diary owned by one of explorer deSotto's men. It was mentioned that rather than hunting fox and raccoons, the dogs were used to hunt Indians. Virginia Hounds were developed from the hounds that were brought by Robert Brooke, an Englishman in 1650, from the English hounds imported to Virginia by Thomas Walker in 1742 and from the hounds imported by George Washington in 1770.
However the hunting dogs that were developed proved to be inadequate to the hunting needs of the Americans. Americans hunted animals that crawled up in trees. Unfortunately, the dogs that were developed do not have the treeing ability. The hounds would lose the scent once the prey has crawled up a tree. The hound was then crossed with the bloodhound to improve the scenting ability. Through careful and selective breeding, the American English Coonhound was developed. Apart from having a much improved scenting ability, the dog has great strength and pain endurance that makes it adapt to the harsh American terrain.
The key to the hound's superior ability to track by scent lies in its enlarged olfactory system and long flapping ears specifically designed to funnel and push air and scents toward the dogs' olfactory system. The hounds ears and jowl flaps also play a vital role in scent detection, capturing and collecting scents to be delivered to the nasal chambers for analysis.
So for those of you who like your short eared dogs, keep em, use em, just know that your not bettering the breed of your coondog by breeding for short ears, your "hurting" the whole purpose of why they were originally bred, to have long ears.... for superior abilities to track scent. If you dont care about meeting your breed standards then why do you even own a UKC registered dog? Makes me wonder...

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The longer the ear the more poop to clean up in the kennel. Direct relationship between the two.

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mjflores ha ha in my opinion you are a moron ha these threads would be way better off if you'd stay out of them. human intelligence you have none!

so brave of you to go make a new screen name to reply with....coward. Go back and hide under your rock.

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another thread that's went waaaay off topic and should be closed....

totally agreed.

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Makes good reading. how some people love a good argument.

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Oh MJFLORES.Your reply to my post is awesome! Thank you for leaving your common sense in the drop box before you got on the computer. There is nothing twisted about my post, it comes from scientific research and proven facts. Both of these you wouldnt even comprehend because you have none to go by unless you can PROVE me wrong and all the researchers who spent their lives studying such things. I am a big game hunter and can have hundreds more come on here and agree with me that the type of dog your talkin about runnin heads up is only good for one thing and thats huntin a bear. There's a reason why UKC has a breeding standard, there's a reason why people look to better the breed of their bloodlines. If what your tryin to do is breed for hounds with short ears then your destructively hurting your bloodline. Your taking away the whole purpose and reason why a hound was ever bred to begin with. Im comfortable knowing that the bloodlines I have are PROVEN and I know where they come from. Keep breeding your hounds for short ears and they wont be PROVEN anymore, there will have to be a new breed of dog for what your creating and I think we should call it the ME TOO's.

CHERRYTREES THANK you for clearen that up .

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it's not the length of the ear its whats between them that counts...........[brains]

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Re: Ears

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Originally posted by M MUELLER
I think WildBill is right have you ever noticed the longer the ears the slower they are on track? just an observation. Mitch

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After reading this thread . I have to greatly worry about the future of coondogs if you guys use "ear length" to factor in wether or not a dog is a coondog or wether it can run a track!!

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this trait helps to collect scent from the air and keep it near the dog's face and nose.. This doesn't mean that dogs with shorter ears don't hunt as well. There's more to how successful a dog is in the woods than just their nose. They have to know how to use it too. Some dogs over run a track, some overwork one, some pull up short. Ears don't determine whether it's a coondog or not, but they are bred for the long ears because it's supposed to help.

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