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Posted by Phantom on 01-01-2012 02:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cody farned
Thank you plottchaser I am going through tuff times right now. after getting back on my feet from falling out of a tree I was in a bad wreck and totaled my truck and messd up my back even more then after that my best dog was put down but lucky I was helped out by friend of mine I cant work due to my injuries and I can't be in the woods as long as id like because I bet to hurting coon hunting is my life and I have to feed my hounds somehow




You can't work after all of that but you can hike 2 miles to a tree cut a coon out of it then hike back out that 2 miles carrying the coon and I guess leading your dog?Maybe its just me but something is wrong with that picture

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 01-01-2012 03:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I won't ever criticize someone for killing every coon they tree during kill season but robbing den trees is nothing but flat out poaching.
i agree mr jim this kid should not even have a dog if he thinks you have to cut a den tree down to a dog if you cant leave a coon that has made it to a den tree dog has to have every coon it trees i would leave the coon and shoot the dog you on here boasting about cutting a coon out of a den tree burns my a&&& up didnt you daddy teach you anything about hunting if you were a kid of mine id beat you till you wish you never did something like that you are not anything but a lowlife poacher jmo


Posted by BHKNC on 01-01-2012 03:34 AM:

Alone

Leave the kid alone. I'm 30, I've hunted with guys who taught me wrong, and guys who taught me right. I've smoked 'em, cut 'em, and pulled 'em out of hollows, dens, even dug em outta holes. I learned wrong and found the right way. I dont comp hunt, I dont hunt for pelts or food. I hunt em cuz I like it. I give the kills to ppl who eat em, occassionally to my dogs. He'll learn right and change his ways. DONT CRITICIZE HIM, TEACH HIM!!!!!!

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Posted by walker1978 on 01-01-2012 03:55 AM:

well i remember when i was a little kid hearing the old timers talkin about diggen em out and crawlin up to shack em out and all that stuff that is now looked at as if its the worst thing you could ever do. im sure just about every one has done something like that atleast once if not twice. its not the end of the world and i dont think it will hurt the coon population that bad. come on he could be out at night doing alot of worse things then that. if my kid did it i would probaly give im hek for it but atleast he wasnt robin a store at gun point for drug money. cody next time think before you post.


Posted by Matt McKinney on 01-01-2012 04:44 AM:

My dad didn't hunt . My grandpa didn't hunt. Went hunting with a guy I.met at a.fishing tournament and loved it. I got a.dog that would tree coons and didn't have bad habits.from that same.guy. I knew.nothing I.had.to.learn. there have been.alot of.times seasoned.coon hunters.told.me.I.was doing.something.wrong.or.I.shouldnt do.something.I was doing. I listen when the oldtimers.tell.me.something. but.one.thing.the.old.timers.never.did.was.treat.me.like.some.of.you.are.treating.this.kid. if.I.was.him I.would never.want.to.post.on this.board.again. I.wouldn't.cut.a.coon.out.cause.its.not.that.important.to.me. but.I.would bet.money.the.same.people.calling him a.poacher don't.think.twice.about.knockin.one.down out.of.season. If.you.don't.agree with.what.he.did.tell him but.is.Calling a.teenager names necessary.lol..geez.oh.Pete's. Also.its in his.grandmothers woods not.yours That being.said.I am.also.curious.of.how you.can.walk.2.miles.to.a.tree cut a hole with.a hatchet walk 2 miles.back.leading a dog.and carrying.a.coon but.you.can't.work. that concerns.me about.1000 times.more.than.cutting a hole in a tree.for.one.slant.headed.coon.


Posted by Cody farned on 01-01-2012 05:17 AM:

My buddy drove us down there on his Polaris ranger and my buddy cut him out because I can't grip it I have no feeling in my right hand due to breaking my wrist in the fall and my left hand is tingly and my dad works 2 jobs and don't coon hunt he ain't ever home.. That's really low saying that about my dad and ticks me off my dad busts his butt off for my family you know all you getting all over me for it and calling me a poacher I ain't got nobody teaching me and didn't know cutting em out was bad or not I needed help and get jumped..


Posted by Cody farned on 01-01-2012 05:23 AM:

Hillbilly buddy aint nothing gonna take my dogs from me you can try to pry them from my cold dead hands


Posted by Phantom on 01-01-2012 05:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cody farned
I sure appreciate it RHK i walked about 2 miles and waded the river for that one coon i paid for my fur tag and had my grandmas permission to get all coon i can get





quote:
Originally posted by Cody farned
My buddy drove us down there on his Polaris ranger and my buddy cut him out because I can't grip it I have no feeling in my right hand due to breaking my wrist in the fall and my left hand is tingly and my dad works 2 jobs and don't coon hunt he ain't ever home.. That's really low saying that about my dad and ticks me off my dad busts his butt off for my family you know all you getting all over me for it and calling me a poacher I ain't got nobody teaching me and didn't know cutting em out was bad or not I needed help and get jumped..



One post you said you walked 2 miles.As soon as a couple of us wondered how you can't work but can walk 2 miles cut a coon out of a tree then walk that 2 miles back out of the woods carrying the coon and leading your dog you said you rode on a polaris ranger.Make up your mind how you got that 2 miles to that tree and back.Or keep your story straight.

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Posted by BHKNC on 01-01-2012 05:49 AM:

LEAVE THE KID ALONE

HE IS LEARNING, FORGET THE STORY AND TEACH HIM, DONT CRTICIZE AND BASH HIM. NOT SAYIN HIS STORY IS TRUE OR FALSE, JUST SAYIN TEACH HIM! MY GOD YALL ARE SO STUCK ON HIS ISSUES YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT HE'S PROUD OF HIS HUNT, ND LOOKIN FOR HELP, IF I WAS NEAR HIM I'D TAKE HIM AND WORK WITH HIM, IF YOU'RE NEAR HIM HOW BOUT TAKE HIM!!!!!!!

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"PR" "Carolina Moons Smokin' Blue Jag" (RIP 12-28-10)
NtCh "PR" Jones Creek Allnight Cody (RIP 12/12/13)

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Posted by Cody farned on 01-01-2012 05:55 AM:

Yall got me y'all won Im the biggest lieing poacher in the world I personally don't care I'll keep hunting in my neck of the woods and y'all keep to yours if you wanna teach me them take me hunting and teach me the right way because I aint got a teacher like y'all did.. Y'all won by the way I rode because I can't walk far Sorry my mistake didn't mean to put walked I don't wanna be known as a liar or poacher please and thank you.....


Posted by StanleyWagner on 01-01-2012 06:29 AM:

Cody

Just go coon huntin, and forget most of this.


Posted by Cory Highfill on 01-01-2012 06:43 AM:

If the worst thing the boy does is cut down a den tree or two, I'd say he'll be allright. Seriously guys...


Posted by skeets on 01-01-2012 06:58 AM:

cody iam glad your back to hunting your coon dogs and out of that hospital. i was praying that you would be ok. i cant judge nobody, i do good to take care of myself. keep them ole tree dogs in the woods and be careful.


Posted by big m.d. on 01-01-2012 12:04 PM:

i dont see what cutting a hole in a den tree hurts we have one behind our barn that my grandpa and his brother cut a hole in to get a coon in the 1930's and its still there and ive treed coons in it hundreds of times ive never killed a coon out of it though


Posted by Wingpatch on 01-01-2012 01:02 PM:

B. S.

Leave the kid alone , he will learn..... i would much rather see some kid cut or smoke a den than some of these GLORY seaker, dog jockey , liers that shoot out every coon in a tree for the numbers even when they know better... how many times you hear .... OOOOOOOOOOOO i went hunten last night treed & killed 11 singles... boy old so-so was on his game only hunted a half hour....BBBBBBBBBB SSSSSSSSSS

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Posted by PlottChaser on 01-01-2012 01:16 PM:

Well, this whole thread has thoroughly pi$$ed me off. Don't think I'll be posting on here for awhile cause I might say something wrong that will get me jumped on by one of you self-righteous, never done anything wrong, armchair coon hunters that would rather talk about your glory days then get out and hunt.

So the kid stretched the truth a little. Who on here hasn't? So he did something you don't think was right. Who on here has never broken any law or ethics while hunting?....No one, that's what I thought.

Forget you people, I'm signing off this board for awhile and gonna enjoy hunting my dogs. Don't need all the drama.

Oh and PS...mean people suck!

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Posted by elvis on 01-01-2012 04:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PlottChaser
Well, this whole thread has thoroughly pi$$ed me off. Don't think I'll be posting on here for awhile cause I might say something wrong that will get me jumped on by one of you self-righteous, never done anything wrong, armchair coon hunters that would rather talk about your glory days then get out and hunt.

So the kid stretched the truth a little. Who on here hasn't? So he did something you don't think was right. Who on here has never broken any law or ethics while hunting?....No one, that's what I thought.

Forget you people, I'm signing off this board for awhile and gonna enjoy hunting my dogs. Don't need all the drama.

Oh and PS...mean people suck!




I have never met anyone who truly loved this sport that cut den trees to take a coon. If it pi$$es you off that some of us are looking out for those den trees by trying to teach an 18 yr old that its those dens that insure there will always be a coon for him to chase, then so be it.
Your grandpa cut den trees during the depression in order to survive. Survival is a whole different situation than cutting a den cause you think your dogs deserved it.
Any young man that can walk a mile and a half, wade a river, chop a hole in a tree, carry a coon,gun,hatchet,light, and lead a couple dogs back out across that river, can dang sure hold a part time job at a fast food joint and make way more money than he can coon hunting.
Oh, and your PS leads me to believe you are probably in the same age group.
Ive said all Im gonna say on the matter of cutting den trees.


Posted by hillbilly56 on 01-01-2012 04:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Cody farned
Hillbilly buddy aint nothing gonna take my dogs from me you can try to pry them from my cold dead hands
if your going to keep hounds you need to change your ways of hunting find you a coonhunter that does things right my grandpap would have skinned me alive if i would have tried cutting a coon or anyanimal out of its home i never did kill every coon i treed you keep doing that you wont have many coon then think back about what you did to get every coon that you treed but what you did just ticked me off


Posted by bigtimberkennel on 01-01-2012 07:47 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
Cody
Take some good advise and dont cut anymore den trees to get a coon.
Not only do those den trees insure you will always have coon to chase in the future, if you get caught cutting one it will cost you a whole hunting seasons hide money to pay the fine and possibly lose you hunting privelages.

Shame on youns that are giving him an attaboy for it. Yall know better.


I totally agree, this is not sportsman like at all. You have opened yourself up too bein' watched by the possum cops.When you lose your huntin' privelages you have no one too blame but yourself. I can remember back in the late 1970's the coon around here were about gone, thanks to those who killed for the money. Coonhunters around here weren't thought of too highly.


Posted by big m.d. on 01-01-2012 08:09 PM:

let me start by saying i dont kill but maybe 8 or ten coons a season but i probably leave several hundred sitting in the tree and i would never chop a hole in a den but we have so many coons here in southern illinois that they can become a pest so i will never preach to a young man about killing coons. I lost hunting rights on a piece of property last year because the farmer found out i didnt shoot them out he wants them all killed year round to hell with the season.


Posted by Logan Hodges on 01-01-2012 08:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by big m.d.
[I lost hunting rights on a piece of property last year because the farmer found out i didnt shoot them out he wants them all killed year round to hell with the season. [/B]


What part of Illinois does he live.

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 01-01-2012 08:53 PM:

boar

i got a pm from this young man he said he didnt know that it was wrong said he would like to do things the right way i myself jumped on him with both feet because i was taught way back about the wrongs and rights of hunting by grandpap and my dad but if his dad didnt hunt he never got the learning of whats right way to do things i gave him some advice told him to find a older coonhunter that loves the sport he will get some good points on th dos and donts theres still hope for this young man if he gets the right help


Posted by bigtimberkennel on 01-01-2012 09:01 PM:

Re: boar

quote:
Originally posted by hillbilly56
i got a pm from this young man he said he didnt know that it was wrong said he would like to do things the right way i myself jumped on him with both feet because i was taught way back about the wrongs and rights of hunting by grandpap and my dad but if his dad didnt hunt he never got the learning of whats right way to do things i gave him some advice told him to find a older coonhunter that loves the sport he will get some good points on th dos and donts theres still hope for this young man if he gets the right help

10-4 on that, good for you. If in my day my dad found out I was doin' that --- he would have stomped a mud hole in my a**


Posted by john Duemmer on 01-01-2012 09:13 PM:

Im not condoning cuttig dens but after doing a ittle digging im not finding these laws everyone keeps referring to that make it illegal to take a coon from a tree with a hole. Seems to me these loggers that go in and clearcut a piece of timber must nock down dens everyday (now thats criminal)

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Posted by Rip on 01-01-2012 09:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
Im not condoning cuttig dens but after doing a ittle digging im not finding these laws everyone keeps referring to that make it illegal to take a coon from a tree with a hole. Seems to me these loggers that go in and clearcut a piece of timber must nock down dens everyday (now thats criminal)


It depends on your state game laws. Just like the right to retreive or the ability to carry a squaller during running season.

Some states say no dens are to be molested etc like UKC rules read. Others do not.

It may be perfectly legal in one state and illegal in the next.

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