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Posted by Rolin Blues on 04-14-2015 06:32 AM:

HOBO

I totally understand your point, but next time he might just point a couple of loads of buckshot across the river from his high perch & hit you or your dogs!!! Permenent damage to you or your dogs wouldn't be a good thing. You are in the right to hunt where you were, but trying to explain your point him before something like this happens might save a lot of suffering later. Take care, Ron.

Posted by msinc on 04-14-2015 12:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by HOBO
I think so of you are missing the point. I was across the river from his place hunting on over 3000 acres of Wildlife management land.

These kind of people are everywhere...usually this is a person that never owned anything in their life, buys a small piece of land and for some reason that was his cue to now act like he owns the county. I have had people just like this actually shoot at us...we weren't on their land either and we were right. You go to their house and the big man either wont answer the door or he's a real he man kinda guy and sends his 100 pound scared to death wife out to talk to us.
I own a lot of land, and I hate to say no to anyone. I don't particularly care for trespassers and I totally get that you guys were not doing that. I always try to start out polite when I find them, you never know when you might meet a friend. They could be lost or otherwise no malice involved.
I also own some hunting land in Virginia and maybe I have just been lucky, but it sure seems like there is a lot less {actually zero for me} trespassing over there. The people are just different, better in many ways. I never understood that limp wet noodle Virginia handshake though....

Posted by RLenhart on 04-14-2015 01:28 PM:

It's kind of funny to me sometimes reading these posts about how tough land owners are in some areas. I think PA is a little behind the times on that in a good way. While everything is posted around here and we do NOT have a right to retrieve law I actually never get hassled for going on peoples land to retrieve my dogs. I get permission from as many people as I possibly can to hunt they're land and when my dog winds up somewhere he shouldn't be I slip in to grab him and if I'm seen and questions just explaining where I dumped out and my dog can't read always get's me at least a cooperative "OK just go ahead and get your dogs then".

Posted by Carl Fox on 04-14-2015 01:32 PM:

msinc There are five(5) different kind of hand shakes and most the time that will tell alot about what kind of man you have just met.
1.a finger squeeze.

2. A clammy hand shake

3.A hand Squeezer

4 a hand pumper

5 Just a good firm hand shake.

If Hobo shook hands with that guy 90% chance he would have a clammy hand shake because he would be scared or nervous or both.JMO.

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Posted by msinc on 04-14-2015 01:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Carl Fox
msinc There are five(5) different kind of hand shakes and most the time that will tell alot about what kind of man you have just met.
1.a finger squeeze.

2. A clammy hand shake

3.A hand Squeezer

4 a hand pumper

5 Just a good firm hand shake.

If Hobo shook hands with that guy 90% chance he would have a clammy hand shake because he would be scared or nervous or both.JMO.

Yes sir, and you can bet your house it wont be a number 5!!!!!
I have to say that not all Virginia boys give that wet noodle handshake, but when I get one I usually say, "if you cant do no better than that you can keep it!!!"

Posted by Scary Creek on 04-14-2015 10:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
Im a bit short tempered in these situations. I can take an a$$ chewing from a landowner if ive wandered on their property, ive taken some good'ns over the years. But don't chew on my rear if you don't own it. Don't tell me your buddy or neighbor or relative owns it and wants you to keep people out. We will not be friends and furthermore you can KMA.

I agree with ya ! I don't hunt no where I don't have permission . Had a run in with a guy first night of coon season our dogs where treed and he came runnin into the tree hollering this is my grandmas property . Well I informed him where I was at and I had permission but he still thought I was in the wrong after bout a 5 minute argument I think he realized he screwed up and ended up going on .

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Posted by toe cutter on 04-15-2015 02:51 AM:

I had a guy yell at me from the road one night,,

"who gave you permission to be in there"..

I yelled back "no-ooo body-eee".

he yelled back at me - "ok, I didn't know he let ya".

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had a old guy yell out into the woods one night

"what the #$%^ you doing in there"

I yelled back "coon huntin"

he yell back " you sons a $%^&#'s , you don''t coon hunt at night"

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Posted by HOBO on 04-15-2015 03:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by warn
see I hope the old cc crew reads this , then they will know who was responsible for all the things that happened at oaks lol

Warn Warn Warn.. I'm pretty sure Mic knows who was/IS responsible for all the trouble YOU got me into with him..

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Posted by RatDog on 04-15-2015 03:36 AM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by toe cutter
[B]I had a guy yell at me from the road one night,,

"who gave you permission to be in there"..

I yelled back "no-ooo body-eee".

he yelled back at me - "ok, I didn't know he let ya".

Ha Ha...but really there is too many maniacs out there today to be pushing buttons

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Posted by Tim Cantrell on 04-15-2015 04:23 AM:

The world is changing

Twenty five years ago all I had to worry about was a few areas of private land I couldn't hunt in the county I live in. Today I worry about the few areas of private land I can still hunt. I worry about my dog getting out of pocket and getting places they shouldn't be. I am like everybody else been yelled at, cussed at, shot at, cops called, game wardens called.

Times are changing. Coon hunting is a dying sport. Not due to kids not wanting to hunt but due to the land available to hunt. I know of a lot of adults who have quit for the very reason. I can only imagine what it would do to some high school kids out hunting and to have the things happen to them that has happened to me. Probably be there last trip.

Our government continues to clear cut our WMA's. They clear cut the hardwood and are planting pines. This is a WMA.....wildlife management area. I have never seen any animal eat a pine cone. I have written letters to a lot of elected officials asking for answers. I have received letters back saying they will look into, but never a letter back about an action plan.

Most of the private land around WMA's are owned by hunters or leased by hunt clubs. Most don't want a dog on there land period, but they plant food plots, have corn feeders but then wonder why every time you hunt the dog winds up on them.

I have tone broke all my dogs so I don't have to deal with the crazy people.

TIMES ARE CHANGING........I don't like it but that's the way it is.

Posted by Tim Cantrell on 04-15-2015 04:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by toe cutter
I had a guy yell at me from the road one night,,

"who gave you permission to be in there"..

I yelled back "no-ooo body-eee".

he yelled back at me - "ok, I didn't know he let ya".

-------------------------------------------------------------------

had a old guy yell out into the woods one night

"what the #$%^ you doing in there"

I yelled back "coon huntin"

he yell back " you sons a $%^&#'s , you don''t coon hunt at night"

I hunted with an old man up until he passed away. Anytime someone pulled up and said we don't allow hunting his answer was always " looks like you are tonight" Believe it or not that line worked most of the time. ( I was never brave enough)

One guy told him that he didn't think much of his dogs for allowing them to get on his land. His answer to that was if you do something to my dogs while they are on your land then you don't think much of your cattle, barns or house. ( believe it or not that line worked to and he gave him permission.)

Make no mistake I have never talked to people that way and most of the time when he said things like that I was hunting a hiding spot. But this man had permission to hunt from people that wouldn't let their own family hunt.

Posted by RLenhart on 04-15-2015 11:25 AM:

Re: The world is changing

quote:
Originally posted by Tim Cantrell
[B
Our government continues to clear cut our WMA's. They clear cut the hardwood and are planting pines. This is a WMA.....wildlife management area. I have never seen any animal eat a pine cone. I have written letters to a lot of elected officials asking for answers. I have received letters back saying they will look into, but never a letter back about an action plan.
[/B]

Most of what you say is very true but pines are very beneficial. Animals most certainly do eat pinecones if you tear the green ones apart youll find pine nuts inside, Squirrels love them that's why you find squirrels in pine trees allot at certain times of the year. In the dead of winter pine needles and the inner bark of a pine tree can be the most nutritious meal in the woods for deer, rabbits and countless other smaller animals.
So while hard woods are good for wildlife pines also do have they're place in the scheme of things just as well.

Posted by Tim Cantrell on 04-15-2015 11:59 AM:

Re: Re: The world is changing

quote:
Originally posted by RLenhart
Most of what you say is very true but pines are very beneficial. Animals most certainly do eat pinecones if you tear the green ones apart youll find pine nuts inside, Squirrels love them that's why you find squirrels in pine trees allot at certain times of the year. In the dead of winter pine needles and the inner bark of a pine tree can be the most nutritious meal in the woods for deer, rabbits and countless other smaller animals.
So while hard woods are good for wildlife pines also do have they're place in the scheme of things just as well.

Not when they are the only kind of trees left. We must be talking about 2 different varieties of pine trees. I have coon hunted my entire life in these Tennessee hills and can count on one hand the number of coon I have treed in pine trees. Here dogs that tree a lot of pine trees get labeled the same as a dog that trees a lot of Sycamore trees. They wind up for sale. I can't remember ever seeing or hearing a squirrel "cutting" in a pine tree.
I can believe that they would help the deer. But I have never seen a hunter set there stand up in a pine thicket. It was always around there primary food source in the fall the acorn tree.
I have spoken with the game wardens that govern these areas and off the record they feel the same way I do. It was all just a ploy for some additional funding for some program that did not have a budget or just an opportunity for a political party to pay back a supporter.
I am in no way a tree hugger. My best friend is one of the biggest loggers in middle Tennessee. But everyone on this board loves turning a hound loose in clean virgin timber.

Posted by RLenhart on 04-15-2015 12:17 PM:

Re: Re: Re: The world is changing

quote:
Originally posted by Tim Cantrell
Not when they are the only kind of trees left. We must be talking about 2 different varieties of pine trees. I have coon hunted my entire life in these Tennessee hills and can count on one hand the number of coon I have treed in pine trees. Here dogs that tree a lot of pine trees get labeled the same as a dog that trees a lot of Sycamore trees. They wind up for sale. I can't remember ever seeing or hearing a squirrel "cutting" in a pine tree.
I can believe that they would help the deer. But I have never seen a hunter set there stand up in a pine thicket. It was always around there primary food source in the fall the acorn tree.
I have spoken with the game wardens that govern these areas and off the record they feel the same way I do. It was all just a ploy for some additional funding for some program that did not have a budget or just an opportunity for a political party to pay back a supporter.
I am in no way a tree hugger. My best friend is one of the biggest loggers in middle Tennessee. But everyone on this board loves turning a hound loose in clean virgin timber.

I never actually said coon loved them I was referring to wildlife in general and yes your right we don't need the woods planted full of them. I was just pointing out that there are some pretty good benefits to some pine trees "In moderation".

Posted by croatankid on 04-15-2015 04:54 PM:

they do the same thing here in nc. the loggers cut everytree in an area and destroy trees in all directions. they get as close or as deep into the swamps as they can too. i agree, they just raiding the state of its treasure for something that will buy a vote.

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Posted by toe cutter on 04-15-2015 05:35 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by RatDog
[QUOTE]Originally posted by toe cutter
[B]I had a guy yell at me from the road one night,,

"who gave you permission to be in there"..

I yelled back "no-ooo body-eee".

he yelled back at me - "ok, I didn't know he let ya".

Ha Ha...but really there is too many maniacs out there today to be pushing buttons

I own the woods I was hunting.
and 27 yrs of my work career was spent dealing with maniacs and idiots.
he had no business asking anyone anything. he didn't own nothing. I've never had much trouble out of land owners. its the guy that might own one tree of a 100 acres another person owns that is usually the idiot.

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Posted by anycolor4us on 04-16-2015 01:56 AM:

Fisher13

Perfect

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