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Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 12-19-2014 06:16 PM:

Thanks!

Greg,
It is my pleasure to work with you. I was contacted by many people about using their females. I had to really debate what to do since I only have 3 breedings to him. I wanted several things and Kate is one of the females that fit the bill.

I heard many good things about Kate and her mom. Could you put her FULL pedigree up for everyone who is not familiar with her?

These pups should be extremely valuable to anyone hunting English dogs with these hounds in their 4 generation pedigree:
Gr. Nt. Ch Wilcox' Thunder All Grand Dan
Gr Nt Ch Brair Creek Zeb.
Gr Nt Ch Timber Valley Triple X ,
Gr Nt Ch Briar Creek Rat Poison.
Gr Nt Ch Briar Creek Doctor Evil,
Gr Nt Ch Timber Cutter,
Gr Nt Ch Nite Prowler,
Gr Nt Ch Adkins Nite Thunder,
Gr Nt Ch Adkins Nite Candy,
Gr Nt Ch Brair Creek Cruise Control,
Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Gr Water Ch, Gr Field Ch Eric all Grand Casper,
Gr Nt Ch Prater Invander,
Nt Ch Gr Ch Dillard Frosty,
Gr Nt Ch Gr Ch Triple D Red Jewel,
Nt Ch Gr Ch Diamond,
I'm sure I missed several names and I did not intentionally leave anyone off the list. These are just some of the of the offspring that came from Durango, Lucky, Queen, Ten, or Ruby. Everyone knows that Durango did not cross well with all females. But, he crossed extremely well with Lucky.He should also cross well with daughters and granddaughters.

I look forward to lining up the other two litters as well. I have one female that has more than proven herself in the Night Hunt world and I want to give her the opportunity in the Reproducing Pen. She is a Gr. Nt. out of Triple X and should carry her dams hunting ability and her grandmother's reproducing ability. She has Lucky on Top and Bottom. She is the ultimate cross for Durango Semen. I will keep you all updated.

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Posted by Shoresg on 12-19-2014 07:35 PM:

3 Generation

-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Briar Creek Bush Hog
-------------------------GrNtCh Briar Creek Snake
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Briar Creek Sandy
----------GrNtCh Cabin Creek Rowdy
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Neuse River Rambo
-------------------------GrNtCh Cabin Creek Pukin
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Mathis Hardtime Kate
GrNtCh Hickory Holler Crazy Kate
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Wilcox Thunder Saint Nick
----------------------------GrNtCh Wilcox Thunder Blue
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Northridge Willy's JoJo
-----------GrNtCh Moss's Hardtime Sugar Kane
------------------------------------------GrNtCh Wilcox Thunder Bingo
-----------------------------GrNtCh,GrCh Timber Valley Lucky
------------------------------------------Ch GrNtCh Blue Magic Gold

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Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 12-19-2014 07:58 PM:

LIST

PUPS:

If Kate has less than six pups the list will look like this:

1.) Chip Wisecup
2.) Greg Shores
3.) David Minson ( female)
4.) Brent Moss

IF she would happen to have more than 6 pups it would look like this:
1.) Chip Wisecup
2.) Greg Shores
3.) Greg Shores/Brent Moss
4.)David Minson ( female)

This should answer some of the PM's and text messages! I appreciate all of the interest in this cross. I look forward to this spring and everything we have to offer.

Look for us at the hunts .....

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 12-31-2014 03:44 AM:

-----------------------------------------Nt. Ch Woodards Buck
-------------------------GrNtChGrCh Beashear’s Blue Boy II
-----------------------------------------ChGrNtCh Red Bayou Jane
----------GrNtChGrCh Timberstar Buck
-----------------------------------------Pr. Little River Pepper
-------------------------GrNtChGrCh Indian Creek Wendy
-----------------------------------------Pr. Deepwood Queen
Gr. Nt. Ch. Gr. Ch Pine Knob Durango
-----------------------------------------GrNtChGr.Ch Wilcox Thunder JR
----------------------------GrNtChGr.Ch Wilcox Thunder Bingo
-----------------------------------------GrNtChGrCh Dickey’s Old Sandy
-----------GrNtCh Raffles Billie Jo
-----------------------------------------GrNtChGrCh Beshear’s Blue BoyII
-----------------------------GrNtCh, Tenbrooks Blue Queen
------------------------------------------Pine Hill Rachell

PUPS (Semen pups )

-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Briar Creek Bush Hog
-------------------------GrNtCh Briar Creek Snake
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Briar Creek Sandy
----------GrNtCh Cabin Creek Rowdy
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Neuse River Rambo
-------------------------GrNtCh Cabin Creek Pukin
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Mathis Hardtime Kate
GrNtCh Hickory Holler Crazy Kate
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Wilcox Thunder Saint Nick
----------------------------GrNtCh Wilcox Thunder Blue
-----------------------------------------GrNtCh Northridge Willy's JoJo
-----------GrNtCh Moss's Hardtime Sugar Kane
------------------------------------------GrNtCh Wilcox Thunder Bingo
-----------------------------GrNtCh,GrCh Timber Valley Lucky
------------------------------------------Ch GrNtCh Blue Magic Gold

Posted by Longwoods Kennel on 01-08-2015 03:53 AM:

Chip, here's a pic of SANDY. We have started hunting her and she needs a good tune up. Stay in touch.

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 01-08-2015 02:32 PM:

Brian Gibbons

Thanks Brian. We will get her in the woods with Timber Valley Big John and have her in the hunts. We are starting Feb. 28 at the Kirksville, Mo RQE.

Posted by hardtymes on 01-08-2015 04:15 PM:

Thought of the day !

A wise man never looks for fame ,but fame will find the wise the man !!

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Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 01-08-2015 04:31 PM:

Amen!

Well said Mr. Dave,

20 years ago I studied pedigrees and hunted every night I could. Never once worried about fame or anything else. I just hunted English Coonhounds because I LOVED THEM.

Today.... same philosophy. I am breeding Durango semen to a few select females... NOT FOR FAME OR FORTUNE... BUT because I LOVE ENGLISH HOUNDS AND I LOVE HUNTING A GOOD ONE!

I wish the best of luck to every kennel out there and hope that an English hound wins the World Hunt and World show every year. It doesn't matter to me what kennel they come from as long as an English Wins it. LOL LOL

Posted by cliff flanders on 01-11-2015 11:17 PM:

Hey Chip just saw your post glad to see you back you dont owe us any apologize. I thank it worked out like it was planed from above we got the pleasure to grand SPIKE.We enjoyed spike and loved him and to this day is the best coon dog i ever owned.We sold SPIKE to a good friend Donald Miller and he did the rest.Hope we get to meet again and we both have as good a dog as SPIKE was. Thanks Cliff Flanders

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 01-12-2015 06:28 PM:

Cliff

Good to hear from you Cliff. I hope everything is going well for you guys.

We have been hunting and training pretty hard this fall. I can't wait to see what happens when spring gets here. We have 4 real nice hounds to push through the hunts.

I really need a competitive show dog.. then we will be complete.

talk later and tell Nathan hello for me.

Posted by driftwood22 on 01-13-2015 05:49 PM:

Mr. Wisecup

Chip,
Nice thread, look forward to seeing you in the woods
I knew someone would get Tony back in the game. Did you find a pup out of X.
When the temps get above zero for a change we will have to run em some evening.

Best of luck too you!

Jake Grossnickle.

Posted by Toad Hill on 01-13-2015 05:58 PM:

Re: Amen!

quote:
Originally posted by chip wisecup 1
Well said Mr. Dave,

I wish the best of luck to every kennel out there and hope that an English hound wins the World Hunt and World show every year. It doesn't matter to me what kennel they come from as long as an English Wins it. LOL LOL

X'S 2 !!!!!

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 01-13-2015 09:20 PM:

Jake

Jake,

Thanks,,, hope to hit the woods this weekend... get a hold of Tony... lets cut em loose.

Posted by Shoresg on 01-17-2015 04:17 PM:

This is the add that ran in the June 1998 American Cooner for the first time offered 3 Generation All Grand Pedigree litter.

Posted by southern stuck on 02-04-2015 11:48 PM:

main street dot

good luck with her chip, hope we get some nice pups.

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 02-05-2015 01:30 PM:

DOT PUPS

THANKS!!!!!!

WE are 10 days away from having pups. She is HUGE!!!!!

She will be moved inside to have them since the weather won't cooperate. This morning on the river bottom it was -21 degrees.

I will get pics and pedigrees uploaded when she has them.

I need to get the hounds hunted up for the Kirksville, Mo RQE, but it needs to warm up some first.

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 02-16-2015 05:59 PM:

OLD BLOOD Junior in thrid and fouth generation

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Hunter
A closer look at the top side of this pedigree reveals some very interesting facts when it comes to the success of line breeding.

The first thing that stands out is GR NITE CH Raffle's Billie Jo. She was one of the greatest reproducers in the English breed producing not only Durango, but also Michigan Swamp Rooster and Virginia Swamp Rooster. Enough about that though. Looking at Billie Jo's pedigree, one can see she was out of an aunt/nephew cross doubling up on the old Junior blood. GR NITE CH GR CH Wilcox Thunder Bingo was a grandson of Junior through GR NITE CH GR CH Dickey's Old Sandy. Billie Jo's mother, GR NITE CH Tenbrook's Blue Queen was a direct daughter of Junior making Billie Jo a line bred cross.

But it get's better Then they take Billie Jo which has just about as much Junior blood as your going to get back in that time and they cross her to GR NITE CH GR CH Timberstar Buck. A direct son of old Junior from the famous Junior x Wendy cross. This makes Durango not only the product of an uncle/niece cross with double Junior that way, but the benefit of Billie Jo being line bred to Junior as well.

Durango's semen possesses a tremendous amount of Junior blood up close. More than any semen on any hound anywhere. The only way you could get more Junior blood was if there was a straw of Junior semen available and it's a common fact that Junior was never collected.

A lot of you reading this that took up the sport after the eighties are probably saying "Who is that Junior dog"? In my opinion, there were three dogs in that era that really left their mark on the English dogs we have today. Three dogs that show up in just about every English dogs pedigree. They are GR NITE CH Boyd's Little Joe, GR NITE CH Hayes Hardtime Speck and GR NITE CH Beshears Blue Boy II (Junior).

I sincerely hope that the cross Chip Wisecup and Greg Shores is going to make is a successful one and that she has a big litter. This old blood will do the English breed proud.

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 02-16-2015 06:08 PM:

Thanks guys

quote:
Originally posted by blackflagginit
I agree Freddy. one other thing to consider is that the one time I got to hunt with Durango, his style reminded me more of his uncle NTCH Hamiltons Blue Boy Ten than of what I personally knew or knew to be true of any other part of his pedigree. Durango left looking to get treed and wasn't real particular about how he got to that end. by that I mean track one there or slam a layup. it was his MONSTER mouth that I always remembered most though. it was way above average in volume, but where it shined was in intensity. The dog just made you want to break land records to get to him ;p, he made it sound that good.

I also raised a lot of dogs off of Blue Boy Ten and found the resemblance in the 2 dogs offspring erie.

as someone who raised a lot of Durango pups back in the day I feel confident in saying the one thing he always passed on best was that mouth and his desire to get treed. his pups inherent good looks was a fancy bonus wrapper on the package.

hope chip doesn't mind me sharing that because its what I always think of first when I think of Durango. ( I always called him Super D as my personal nick name for him)

Durango was the most over looked STUD dog in my lifetime. BAR NONE. I hope fate gives him one more chance to make the HUGE difference he always managed to make even with his limited number of breedings.

Thanks for the nice words guys..... I hope to have a few pups that reproduce like TEN< QUEEN<AND RUBY.
I have a short list of people getting pups. Greg Shores, Brent Moss, David Minson, Pete Thompson, and a few others.
Lets keep working together to make the English Breed Superior.

Posted by Rocketman55 on 03-05-2015 01:01 AM:

Chip

Hello Chip, I just wanted tell you I really enjoyed talking coon dogs with you on the phone. I hope you are avoiding this danged snow storm that is covering us up again here in SE Ohio. It has rained for the last two days to get rid of the last 10 inches and now we are getting 7-10 more by tomorrow night. Come on Spring, it cannot come soon enough, LOL. Thanks again, It was an absolute pleasure.

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Posted by rockrivhuntr on 03-05-2015 03:14 PM:

Spike's son's

Mr. Wisecup welcome back and if you are interested I hunt with Donald Miller and he has two NTCH males directly off of Spike now, plus several young dogs that are second generation off of Spike. I handled one of those NTCH's for a while for Donald who was a good day in and day out steady nice hound. He and Dwight Robertson both are both good guys to hunt with and both know a good hound and will tell it like it is when it comes to these English hounds. Give Donald a call if your interested in getting some of that Spike blood back. I also have hunted with Mr. Gibbons' Sandy female from the time she was just starting to year or so before he bought her. She's shown to be a fast accurate coon treer when I hunted with her. I hunted with Dwight's Little Spike male when he was young also so I have seen him do some good work as well. Just PM me if you need to get in touch with Donald and I will send you his number. Once again welcome back and good luck with your pups.

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(ENG)...off GRNTCH CH 'PR' Kay's Blue John Bathis x 'PR' Little Penny********

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GRNTCH Main Street Blueberry Jam

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(Plott)...off of FCH CH GRNTCH Shatley's Lobo
x Moses' Rugged Ridge Shout

Posted by W.Boyer on 03-06-2015 04:20 AM:

I own a half sister to kate she is a real nice hound, out of Charlie 7. Was wondering if i could get a phone number and talk to you about a pup. Thanks

Posted by Okie Hunter on 03-07-2015 10:08 PM:

Re: LIST

quote:
Originally posted by chip wisecup 1
PUPS:

If Kate has less than six pups the list will look like this:

1.) Chip Wisecup
2.) Greg Shores
3.) David Minson ( female)
4.) Brent Moss

IF she would happen to have more than 6 pups it would look like this:
1.) Chip Wisecup
2.) Greg Shores
3.) Greg Shores/Brent Moss
4.)David Minson ( female)

This should answer some of the PM's and text messages! I appreciate all of the interest in this cross. I look forward to this spring and everything we have to offer.

Look for us at the hunts .....

Why are you letting that Brent Moss guy in on a pup? Heard he was a shady character

LOL I've known Brent for years. Just love pulling his chain every once in a while

Hope he reads this LOL.

Hope you guys get a big litter.

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Posted by hardtymes on 03-08-2015 04:19 AM:

Chip !!

Here is the ALE-8 dog i was talking about !!

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Posted by bmoss on 03-08-2015 07:45 AM:

Kinda surprised to be gettin one myself Freddy hahha

Posted by chip wisecup 1 on 03-08-2015 02:18 PM:

Freddy,
I had a weak moment!!!! Lol lol
Just kidding ! He comes highly recommended . I wish I had every successful breeder wanting one.

Dave,
That's just what DOTS pups look like! Can't wait to see what they grow up to be!

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