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The dog was in deep, maybe half a mile. The two dogs sounded similar, it was far enough away that neither handler was sure which dog it was or even if it was two dogs. One guy struck and a few seconds later treed the dog. About a minute later the other handler struck and treed what he thought was his dog. Turned out it was the second handlers dog. But neither knew anything for sure until the first handlers dog fell treed right beside us. That is when he said minus my dog both ways. They minused him, he immediately restruck and retreed his dog and they proceeded to score dogs. This question was never asked until a day later.

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It went on the card as minus strike and then the tree points were also minused. On the card it is two different scores, strike points and tree points. Two different minuses. Right?

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Originally posted by l.lyle
Are you sure that the fellow that did not call his dog treed would have had to tree his dog at all? Much less by the third bark. I've heard of smart handlers who would not tree their dog if they were playing the clock or whatever reason. Did that dog stay at his tree or did he quit it?

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Doesnt matter if he trees his dog or not,if the dog is not struck as soon as the dog barks 3 times and is not called the handler is guilty. 3 more barks and he is guilty again, and gone. RULE 6E.

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Originally posted by englishbuddy
12 barks is not 4 offenses it is 1 offense over 3 barks !!!! The man that struck and treed the wrong dog is scratced !!!!! the other man thought it could have been the other mans dog at first I would give him the benifit of dought an let it go

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Well I guess because 1 dog was barkin and 1 dog was struck an treed !!!!!! Is it my dog or not kinda thing !!!!!!

Got it scratch the first one for striking the wrong dog two for not striking his dog than find some reason to get number three now is it not how it goes down today by most of the sharp handlers if you scratch you do not have to beet them or there dogs

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Heard a story about a 2 dog cast one time under the old rules when you were scratched on the first offense for not striking your dog on the 3rd bark.

Dog A barks and handler of Dog B says "strike my dog". Dog A keeps barking and the handler of Dog A says "hey you struck my dog", but he doesn't strike his dog. Handler B says "yep, I struck the wrong dog, but you are scratched for not striking your dog on or before the 3rd bark".

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The handler that struck and treed the wrong dog should be scratched. Seems to me the tree call was the second attempt to call the wrong dog. What should have happened was the cast tightened up on the dogs until it was clear what dog it was.
Jim I thought all you Northern boys lived in the land of coon. What's them dogs going a half to get struck for. LOL

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
Doesnt matter if he trees his dog or not,if the dog is not struck as soon as the dog barks 3 times and is not called the handler is guilty. 3 more barks and he is guilty again, and gone. RULE 6E.

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Rule #4(I)
If a handler stikes or trees the wrong dog, the "JUDGE" will
award points called and minus them. These points will then be
open for all dogs....

Rule #6(F)
On second offense if handler calls another handlers dog..
then your gone!!

Not that it makes much difference with this screwed up event but I was wondering if the first dog held his tree and how the tree was scored + - or circle? Was a coon there?

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Originally posted by jar
Rule #4(I)
If a handler stikes or trees the wrong dog, the "JUDGE" will
award points called and minus them. These points will then be
open for all dogs....

Rule #6(F)
On second offense if handler calls another handlers dog..
then your gone!!

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Originally posted by JiM
The dog was in deep, maybe half a mile. The two dogs sounded similar, it was far enough away that neither handler was sure which dog it was or even if it was two dogs. One guy struck and a few seconds later treed the dog. ......

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That is how they handled it. I was a spectator, I don't think it ever occurred to the judge or anyone else to scratch. It came up the next day purely as a "what if".

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Silent dogs

I have a question no negative comments u like what u like I like what I like my dogs are silent what is the official rule for that? See my dog throws one long locate ball right before she trees would I be scratched for that or would that count as a strike

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Originally posted by Mertzt041
I have a question no negative comments u like what u like I like what I like my dogs are silent what is the official rule for that? See my dog throws one long locate ball right before she trees would I be scratched for that or would that count as a strike

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Originally posted by Mertzt041
I have a question no negative comments u like what u like I like what I like my dogs are silent what is the official rule for that? See my dog throws one long locate ball right before she trees would I be scratched for that or would that count as a strike

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
i like a tight mouth dog way better than 1 that runs his mouth allnight.

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That kinda sucks my pup 5I month's is silent already tracks n trees by her self done got her first kill is silent all the way till she trees is there a way to get them to bark a few times on trail or will it come later