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Posted by l.lyle on 11-16-2010 06:27 AM:

I'm gonna tell you a story about the worst lier I ever saw. And I'm still feeding that 14 year old dog. When he was two he was extremely fast and accuarete and LOUD. When he got 3 or 4 he started split treeing just a little ways from the pack but he would have a coon. The way I found out about him was I had got to one tree with all dogs and killed that coon and re cast them from the tree. I had parked at a pond dam and was headed back in that direction when they struck and headed towards the truck. Sure enough they past the dam, crossed the creek and headed back to me on the other side of the pond. Directly, I heard something in the leaves and turned on my light and the coon got scared and climbed. That dog was a good 100 yards behind the coon and 50 yards , maybe 100 ahead of the dogs by then and located with that 30 second long loud ball that always curled my toes. I heard the other dogs coming past the head of the pond and he did too. He went another 50 yards and sat down and treed is but off. Directly, all dogs joined in. I sat there enjoying the chorus but I knew the coon I saw was in another tree( i was about fifty yards away from the real tree and 75 from where they were treeing) I cut on my light and started to them and i realized I didn't hear Rock anymore. When I got near the tree i could kind of hear him in a low voice back where he had located. When I started toward him he turned it on loud as ever. That son of a gun was planting young dogs on a tree and would work them up to a frothy mouth frenzy and then slip off. Then it all made sense.
By the time he was 8 or nine he was still fast but he started getting senile. He would get caught up in the lie himself and stay there. After I shined the tree I would say to my buddy who was to my left, for example. "There ain't no ---- coon up that tree" while i had my eyes cut on Rock ( down and to the right for example) and he'd give me a look "Oh heck, I forgot what I was doing" and take off and in ten seconds be treed and have that coon. I should have killed that lier a thousand times but I was switching over to Leopards and they learned real quick to check for themselves or get what they had coming. So as a caniving a lier as he was I never did kill him, He can''t even out run me now but last year I had some hot races going on out in the marsh and he couldn't even hear them to join in but he did f-rt around on the hill and get two layups done by himself within a hundred yards while the others were streatched out.


Posted by l.lyle on 11-17-2010 08:18 AM:

btt Ya'll must think I'm lying. But the other lieing post is still going strong


Posted by terry willford on 11-17-2010 08:42 AM:

If you whip the dog and give him a kick in the butt is the dog really gonna pay attention to where that coon went from that tree? I mean think about it for a minute, how far and how fast did you run when your pa caught you smokin behind the barn and when you stopped did you light the same ciggerette? Basicaly it boils down to this; the dogs has to know what the word no means and that needs to be started when its 8 wks old, teach it the word no and then do your training. when he slicks, grab him by the collar and say no, if he keeps going back then maybe a switch. but you want that young dog to know how he got fool and to take the track away from the tree, not go out and find another one. i used to carry a leather strap and whoop them too but it started taking the fun out of it, i went back to just basic stuff and it seems to work better. heck i did it tonight and the young dog went and took the track away and had the coon. rolled it out to him and all was good.


Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-17-2010 02:48 PM:

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Originally posted by terry willford
If you whip the dog and give him a kick in the butt is the dog really gonna pay attention to where that coon went from that tree? I mean think about it for a minute, how far and how fast did you run when your pa caught you smokin behind the barn and when you stopped did you light the same ciggerette? Basicaly it boils down to this; the dogs has to know what the word no means and that needs to be started when its 8 wks old, teach it the word no and then do your training. when he slicks, grab him by the collar and say no, if he keeps going back then maybe a switch. but you want that young dog to know how he got fool and to take the track away from the tree, not go out and find another one. i used to carry a leather strap and whoop them too but it started taking the fun out of it, i went back to just basic stuff and it seems to work better. heck i did it tonight and the young dog went and took the track away and had the coon. rolled it out to him and all was good.


Yep this is a very good post. The only thing I would add is that a dog has a big vocabulary if you use it and spend time with it. I had a Lab. that had 36 commands and several hand signels she new by the time I gave her away at 2 years old.
So what I am saying is use the same word every time but it doesn't have to be NO. I use NO for things I never want to see them do again in there life. When I walk under a slick tree I say not there in an unhappy voice and walk on the way the track was going. Then I tell them come on and when they come I tell them get in there like I do when I cut them.
What ever you use for commands just be consistant and allways handle your dog the same way all the time and they will learn what you want. Every little thing should be handled with consistancy from the time you arive at the end of there dog run till you put them back in it. Even though they jump on the tail gate with out being told. If you give them the command to jump. They know that command and will jump anything on command after a while. Like a fence or what ever.

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