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Posted by Solid-Northern on 08-04-2009 04:21 AM:

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Posted by Jay Dangers on 03-28-2010 04:50 AM:

Will this kill round worms hook worms and tape worms?

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Posted by coonsmen on 03-28-2010 05:16 AM:

im pretty sure it only prevents heart worms


Posted by coonsmen on 03-28-2010 05:20 AM:

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Originally posted by Derek Chapman
IT WILL BURN THEIR VOCAL CORDES I NOW FIRST HAND I LEARNED THE HARD WAY I MIX MINE WITH GATORDAE AND HAVENT HAD ANY PROBLEMS THANKS DEREK


i mix mine with propolean glyco i mix it to make a ratio to 1cc to 20 pounds. its what the vets mix it with also.


Posted by Bill(Chew) on 03-28-2010 10:59 AM:

Iveromec kills all worms EXCEPT some tape worms. I start pups on it at about six weeks and give it once a month. I squirt it on a dog biscuit and just hand it to the dog.

For heart worm prevention you only need 0.1 of a CC for a 76 lb dogwhen using a 1% solution. You do need a higher dose for other worms. I give 0.3 of a CC each month for each dog (30 to 85 lbs) and have no worms except tapes from time to time.

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Posted by Bill(Chew) on 03-28-2010 11:08 AM:

Iveromec kills all worms EXCEPT some tape worms. I start pups on it at about six weeks and give it once a month. I squirt it on a dog biscuit and just hand it to the dog.

For heart worm prevention you only need 0.1 of a CC for a 76 lb dogwhen using a 1% solution. You do need a higher dose for other worms. I give 0.3 of a CC each month for each dog (30 to 85 lbs) and have no worms except tapes from time to time.

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Posted by Barnyard on 03-28-2010 03:40 PM:

Misconception!

Ivermectin, is not actually a preventative! The purpose of the Iver. is to kill the possible infestation of the larvae that may have occurred over the last 30 days. The reason honest vets say you don't have to give it every month, is because the larvae & the young worm are vulnerable to the Iver. up until 6mo. of age. So theroretically you could dose your dogs every 2 or 3 mo,'s & still be safe, although I wouldn't recomend it!
People constantly use the term preventative when in fact according to my vet you are just killing the larvae from the prior 30 day period. It does not have the residual characteristics that we think it does. It is in fact a good inexpensive wormer that has been used for years. The other micoseption is that it will kill adult heartworm & kill your dog. For the most part this is untrue. I was always under the impression that once they got heartworm, they continue to multiply! "NOT TRUE"! If your dog gets infected, they will only end up with as many heartworm as the host mosquito transfered. What happens is that it has to go through the cycle of the host. So if you have a mosquito bite a dog, then that dog becomes infected, the mosquito's will continue to tranfer the micro. back & forth thus completing the cycle & eventually creating more adult heartworm in your dog until it finally has visual results such as coughing, & overall lack of energy! Don't take my word for it! Find a vet you can trust & ask him. WARNING! A young vet that thinks it might cost him business down the road while he is trying to build a practise might be reluctant to be forthright with the whole story! JMO!
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Posted by jared strunk on 03-28-2010 05:51 PM:

my vet told me that ivomec will get every thing exept for whip worms 1/2 cc for a 50lb dog and u can use the pour on but very little


Posted by Jay Dangers on 03-29-2010 03:04 AM:

Good info!!

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Posted by Barnyard on 03-29-2010 04:29 AM:

Your vet may have misinformed you!

There is more than 1 type of tape worm! Some people say that the Ivermectin+ will get one of the strains of tape worm, but not the other! I can't verify that through my vet. He says that he has not had enough results to give his oppinion! Whip worms are not an issue with Ivermectin as far as I understand. Just tape!
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Posted by l.lyle on 03-29-2010 05:15 AM:

Re: Misconception!

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Originally posted by Barnyard
Ivermectin, is not actually a preventative! The purpose of the Iver. is to kill the possible infestation of the larvae that may have occurred over the last 30 days. The reason honest vets say you don't have to give it every month, is because the larvae & the young worm are vulnerable to the Iver. up until 6mo. of age. So theroretically you could dose your dogs every 2 or 3 mo,'s & still be safe, although I wouldn't recomend it!
People constantly use the term preventative when in fact according to my vet you are just killing the larvae from the prior 30 day period. It does not have the residual characteristics that we think it does. It is in fact a good inexpensive wormer that has been used for years. The other micoseption is that it will kill adult heartworm & kill your dog. For the most part this is untrue. I was always under the impression that once they got heartworm, they continue to multiply! "NOT TRUE"! If your dog gets infected, they will only end up with as many heartworm as the host mosquito transfered. What happens is that it has to go through the cycle of the host. So if you have a mosquito bite a dog, then that dog becomes infected, the mosquito's will continue to tranfer the micro. back & forth thus completing the cycle & eventually creating more adult heartworm in your dog until it finally has visual results such as coughing, & overall lack of energy! Don't take my word for it! Find a vet you can trust & ask him. WARNING! A young vet that thinks it might cost him business down the road while he is trying to build a practise might be reluctant to be forthright with the whole story! JMO!
Thank's John



You're right. I think the reason it might be called a preventative is because the vets refer to the lrval stage as filaria and I was under the impression that stage lasted for 9 months. The Ivermeck gets the filaria but not the worm so in essence it prevents the worm. I have started some dogs on it when they were older. They probably already had heart worms. But my vet said he hasn't had them die of heartworms. He figures the worms just live out their life and die off one at a time so they don't get an acculation of them as if you did nothing. One of my dogs is 13 and I didn't get him till he was 2. My vet gives them antihistamine when he starts an older dog. I don't know if that's because of the first dose of Ivermeck or because there would be alot of dead filaria in his system. At one time Long years ago I worked for a vet and they would give injections for three days in a row in the front leg vein that would kill the filaria and the worms. That was some bad stuff. If any of it missed the vein, the dogs leg would swell and the dog would lick till he licked the hair and hide off. Some times it would take months to cure that. Even without that problem you had to keep the dog quiet for a month because all the dead worms could get together and float to the heart and kill the dog. It was some bad stuff.


Posted by Mike Donaldson on 03-29-2010 06:47 PM:

I call it preventive since it prevents adult heartworm infestation by killing the microfilariae in the blood stream.

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Posted by PJ SPANGLER on 03-29-2010 08:28 PM:

WORMER

PULL UP WHAT YOU WANT THEN PULL UP 1CC OF MILK IT KILLS THE TASTE AND COATS THE DOGS THROAT. THEY SEEM TO LIKE IT I HAVE BEEN USING THIS METHOD FOR YEARS NO PROBLEMS AS OF YET.


Posted by Okie Dawg on 03-29-2010 10:47 PM:

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Originally posted by turman
You use the 1% ivermectin injectable cattle solution but give it orally at a dosage of 1/10th cc to 10 pounds of body weight. So a 50 lb dog would get 1/2 cc once a month.


Yep I have been doing this for decades and not hurt a dog yet.
Over doseing will hurt there liver though. Key words is OVER DOSEING............ My vet. is who gave me the dosage.
I just squirt it in there mouth. I have a six year old that has been getting 1 cc for as long as he has been grown........

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Posted by mike thomason on 07-04-2013 03:30 PM:

Go to oldcountryvet.com and watch the videos by Dr. James Busby.

You will learn a lot about Ivomec for heart worms and also rabies vaccines and lyme disease testing. Many more videos on this sight.


Posted by Fisher13 on 07-05-2013 07:35 PM:

To prevent heartworms in a 50lb dog, is around 150 mcg of ivermectin is needed.

In a 1/2 cc of 1% Ivomec. there is 5 mg of ivermectin.
That is 5000 mcg.

To get the proper dosage .5 cc of 1% ivomec should be cut with 49.5 ml of of propleyne glycol.

This will then cut it down to 100mcg of ivormectin per ml

So a 50lb dog would need about 1.5 ccs of the cut down version.

Usually no immediate side effects are noticed in overdosing hounds. However it is proven and common knowledge that too much ivormectin is hard on the liver.

Never use ivomec plus


Posted by gloryb47 on 07-05-2013 11:28 PM:

A good friend of mine who is a vet (with common sense) told me give 1/10 of a cc of the cattle oral for every 10 lbs of body weight of the dog. Which is what he gave his dogs. It is the exact same medicine that is in heart guard just different suspension. (Give it orally) I have been doing it for over 15+ years. One hound died at 13 yrs old and had it that way every month of his life.

The vet said not to give more or you will over dose them. That is roughly the heart guard dose. You also can't give it to collies just like heart guard it will kill them.

I just measure it in a syringe then shot it in their mouth. My friend by the way graduated #1 from MO Univ. which is always ranked as one of the top schools in the US so he is not just your average Vet.

Like I said been doing it his way for 15+ years no problems.

Hope that helps


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