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Posted by J.R. Heiny on 12-28-2007 03:46 PM:

to close or not

Hi ,

just by seeing the names I would say do it if you really want to get a closer look into it before makeing the cross look at the reg. numbers of each dog and that will tell you just who is related. but it looks like you are set up for a line breed with these two dogs wich if you have another female bred by this male you are useing you could keep a pup from that cross and one from this cross breed those two togehter and have the genes you really like these dogs rapped up into one litter. My stud is bred tighter then pups would be out of your two dogs your wanting to bred.

J.R.


Posted by Buckshot on 12-28-2007 05:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H


YOU MUST HAVE THE CONFORMATION TO CARRY THE ABILITIES

I keep seeing these World Camps and to be honest I would'nt Breed to a single one of them !!

Their Small and have Sh-- Conformation




You may want to re-read what you posted.

If they have Sh-- Conformation as you stated, then how are winning World Hunts?

You posted "YOU MUST HAVE THE CONFORMATION TO CARRY THE ABILITIES"

By your own admission, dogs with Sh-- Conformation are winning World Hunts.

So I guess that throws out your theory that you must have confirmation to carry the abilities.

What kills me the most, your ragging on World Champion dogs and calling their conformation sh-- , when your breeding crossbreed hounds (Majestics). -- Or the non PC term MUTTS.

Something seems wrong with that picture.


Posted by Dwils on 12-28-2007 05:58 PM:

not as close as travis browns cross

i think it should be a good cross
-----------------GCH Grnt Bellar's Handsome Harry
-------GCH Grnt Bellar's Lonesome Saigon
-----------------Pr Yakin River Shadow
--GCH Grnt Bellar's Psycho(SIRE)
-----------------SCH Wldnt Grnt Bellar's Pack-Man
-------PR Egli'sHard Goin Shelia
-----------------Ntch Bellar's Indiana Dusty

my pup

-----------------GCH Grnt Bellar's Handsome Harry
-------GCH Grnt Bellar's Lonesome Saigon
-----------------Pr Yakin River Shadow
--NITECH Coon Creek Lady(dam)
-----------------Grnt Coon Creek Warrior
-------Grnt Mcdaris coon creek ann
------------------GRNT FEMALE

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Posted by on 12-28-2007 06:07 PM:

Dang.... you got one of Irvies pups???
Man, what's Tom gonna do when he finds out you're hunting that Psycho crap????

Good luck, I think you'll like that pup.


Posted by Dwils on 12-28-2007 06:15 PM:

haha, hey jim, i just thought i'd try it,lol, my son pup (hombre, ya know, the one that wears girls underwear, lol) he is doing an awesome job, he treed 2 singles tuesday night and two more singles wednesday, he's gona make somethin--he can pick up and start and finish tracks that alot of other dogs cant even smell---but i just thought i would try one out, never had bellar stuff, thought i would try somethin else than sackett stuff; but that doesnt mean i'm done huntin sackett stuff! lol

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Posted by on 12-28-2007 06:18 PM:

Sounds like Hombre is click'in. Glad to hear it.


Posted by T.Beyer on 12-28-2007 08:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
How come everyone Misses CONFORMATION !!
Papers are Papers

How about Breed Standards

How are the Feet ??
Height ??
Head ??
Back ??
Hips ??

YOU MUST HAVE THE CONFORMATION TO CARRY THE ABILITIES

I keep seeing these World Camps and to be honest I would'nt Breed to a single one of them !!

Their Small and have Sh-- Conformation

Breed Standards are what makes the Breed, you have to look at the whole picture Ability/Conformation then Marry them together..

I know Looks Don't Tree Coons but with the way the Walkers are going They'l have to change the Breed Standards..



I think a dog that tree real live raccoons is more important than any show dog. Breed standards are important, don't get me wrong, but they are called coondogs!

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Posted by Dwils on 12-29-2007 09:19 PM:

one of the tuffest females i have ever hunted with was called raisin river kate-- she was long eared, short legged, flat footed, and oh my god what a COOOOOOOOONNNNNNNDDDDDDDOOOGG.........



more breeds have been hurt because show people breeding for looks and confromation and not ability--they are called coondogs, and not showdogs--in the magazines they dont call them treeing walker "show hounds" or american blackn tan "showhounds"---i could care less if they are born with a huge head and a little body, if they tree coon in a "stylish" kinda way or the way that most satisfies me, i guess i'm satisfied

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Posted by on 12-29-2007 09:38 PM:

Dwils, me and Luke just booked a pair off Stylish Rube and a Cutter bitch. Too much Harry????


Posted by Dwils on 12-29-2007 10:05 PM:

haha, hey,i bet it would be a good cross, lol,

didnt u get a pup off cutter and a sunrise female?

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Posted by Dwils on 12-30-2007 10:10 PM:

btt

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Posted by Robert Starke on 01-04-2008 07:41 AM:

Bozo

I have noticed 1/2 brother-1/2 sister crosses of Bozo in certain dogs pedigrees. From the results, it appears it worked. Good Hunting, Robert


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