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Posted by nextcoonhunters on 06-27-2018 10:03 PM:

How many titled hounds

How many titled hounds in your belief can legitimately pass and get the HTX title. short run down on three different nights under three different judges tree a coon by their self in an hour without doin two things wrong.


Posted by nextcoonhunters on 06-28-2018 06:51 PM:

Is this because some nite champs won't hunt by their self? what other thoughts or reasons do you'll think titled dogs couldn't pass? Just wondering I let my boy (10 year old) do the htx because of the no drama atmosphere, and he loves them. cut the dog and it's all on the dog, he just has to do his job. but we went with a nite champ who may not be able to pass and we got to talking and he was wondering.


Posted by shadinc on 06-29-2018 12:22 AM:

I'm surprised that 44% think half of all champions can't tree a coon.


Posted by Al Medcalf on 06-29-2018 01:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by shadinc
I'm surprised that 44% think half of all champions can't tree a coon.


I'm not surprised at all. Kind of surprised that many folks admitted it.

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 06-29-2018 11:32 AM:

I’m surprised that many people have traveled this country an hunted with all these titled dogs alone.

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Posted by Blaze2014 on 06-29-2018 12:54 PM:

I don't know how dogs aren't better as a whole than what they are with all the knowledge that floats around this site.

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Posted by yadkintar on 06-29-2018 01:05 PM:

Anybody that thinks even top notch highly promoted dogs don't make mistakes haven't hunted much terrain , and wheather conditions have a big factor. No dog is flawless I ain't seen one yet. Some just have more good nights than others it's called consistentsy.




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Posted by pamjohnson on 06-29-2018 01:27 PM:

i sure don't doubt that most titled dogs can tree plenty of coon but i just don't feel there is many that can tree them without making plenty of mistakes. BIG difference.


Posted by Bruce m. Conkey on 06-29-2018 01:56 PM:

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Posted by Adam Wingler on 06-29-2018 02:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitehunter2004
I’m surprised that many people have traveled this country an hunted with all these titled dogs alone.

Mr Tim.



Better yet and on the flip side, seen said dogs themselves (solo) tree coon anywhere in the country. I'd much rather see that test.


Posted by shane_atchison on 06-29-2018 03:10 PM:

Its not the dog fault for the most part. Titles are easier to obtain now than any other time in history of comp hunting due to waning attendance and amount of hunts available. You simply dont need the caliber dog to win hunts nowadays..

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Posted by dbpro56 on 06-29-2018 03:24 PM:

I actually believe it's between 75% and 100%! Every titled dog is gonna make a mistake, or have an off night. But for the most part, they typically look pretty good. IMO

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Posted by John Cowan on 06-29-2018 06:50 PM:

hunt walkers

I hunted for 35 yr. and have never seen a walker that was nite ch. that could not tree a coon by it self


Posted by K. Singletary on 06-29-2018 07:01 PM:

From what I've seen dogs are split treeing more than ever, if anything the % of dogs that can tree its own coon has increased. All through the 90's and early 2000's it was very rare to see a dog off to itself, now I see it in every cast.

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Posted by nextcoonhunters on 06-29-2018 07:47 PM:

Re: hunt walkers

quote:
Originally posted by John Cowan
I hunted for 35 yr. and have never seen a walker that was nite ch. that could not tree a coon by it self
hunted with a nice walker a while back had won his cast with over 1000 points in the first hour and a guy give big money. talked to the guy that bought him and he was more than unhappy and invited me to go hunting. So I went the dog wouldn't hunt by itself. I think had we cut a mouse with him he'd been gone. half the night later still not hunting ran back to my place grabbed a hound cut and they were gone. And yes he was a nite champ with wins toward grand. I need to come north you guys must have some nice hounds up there.


Posted by shane_atchison on 06-29-2018 08:10 PM:

As a paid handler when I was younger, I personally titled a dog that would not tree a coon alone. A quick cover dog that babbles can be titled in UKC without a ton of effort..

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Posted by Sonny Phipps on 06-29-2018 08:10 PM:

I am willing to bet that 90 + percent of titled dogs can tree own coon and pass HTX. Heck my red heeler can tree coon, not the way I want one too night in and out but he could pass a HTX. I have yet to see a hound that couldn't tree coons alone that someone was carrying to a hunt.

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Posted by Adam Wingler on 06-29-2018 08:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonny Phipps
I am willing to bet that 90 + percent of titled dogs can tree own coon and pass HTX. Heck my red heeler can tree coon, not the way I want one too night in and out but he could pass a HTX. I have yet to see a hound that couldn't tree coons alone that someone was carrying to a hunt.


I'd bet the opposite down here...


Posted by rudedog on 06-29-2018 08:24 PM:

htx titled dogs

i'm not one to put much to a htx title it's a big joke . you can walk any dog to a tree with a coon in it and it should tree it .now drop that dog with 3 other dogs and have it tree a coon by it's self you mit have a coon dog just saying ...

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Posted by Ghost14 on 06-29-2018 08:39 PM:

I must have hunted with the only GrNt.’s that couldn’t tree a coon in the country if there are only a few. I’ve not hunted many titled dogs but only 1 out of the 11 or 12 I’ve hunted would tree their own coon. We tried out another 4 that I’m not counting because I only hunted them one night apiece. But they made plenty of trees but couldn’t tree one coon. It’s an interesting topic to listen to everyone discuss no doubt. I’m not familiar with the rules, but the HTX sounds like it would be very difficult for most hounds to pass if they had to do it in different terrain when the leaves are off and they had to have a coon seen.

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Posted by daniel urffer on 06-29-2018 08:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sonny Phipps
I am willing to bet that 90 + percent of titled dogs can tree own coon and pass HTX. Heck my red heeler can tree coon, not the way I want one too night in and out but he could pass a HTX. I have yet to see a hound that couldn't tree coons alone that someone was carrying to a hunt.


I consider Sonny a friend, but bro I'd take that bet.


Posted by JesseJ on 06-29-2018 10:59 PM:

I bought a older female that was Duel Grand a couple yrs ago, she was advertised as little Miss Treedog! They had the miss part right I think she treed 4 out of about 25 trees!! LOL


Posted by Donnie Stevens on 06-29-2018 11:11 PM:

I do most of my huntin alone with one dog. If they can't tree a coon alone and do it right they never get to a hunt.

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Posted by Chuck Allen on 06-29-2018 11:48 PM:

There will be or better be something in the tree even a possum is better than nothing.

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Posted by tony.beals on 06-30-2018 12:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yadkintar
Anybody that thinks even top notch highly promoted dogs don't make mistakes haven't hunted much terrain , and wheather conditions have a big factor. No dog is flawless I ain't seen one yet. Some just have more good nights than others it's called consistentsy.




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