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Posted by cain99 on 02-10-2016 01:31 PM:

UKC Hunts

I really enjoy a UKC Slam Event, they ran much like a PKC sancitoned Pro Hunt. Do you think there will be a day when UKC hunts become money sanctioned events instead of a win slip or a plastic trophy? I am thinking in the near future UKC will ne holding more money sanctioned events & I don't see no problem with that. Any opinions on this?!

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Posted by sleepy head on 02-10-2016 01:52 PM:

Re: UKC Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by cain99
I really enjoy a UKC Slam Event, they ran much like a PKC sancitoned Pro Hunt. Do you think there will be a day when UKC hunts become money sanctioned events instead of a win slip or a plastic trophy? I am thinking in the near future UKC will ne holding more money sanctioned events & I don't see no problem with that. Any opinions on this?!

When and if that happens, coon hunting will officially be on its last grasp of life. IMO

Posted by RLenhart on 02-10-2016 02:02 PM:

Re: Re: UKC Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by sleepy head
When and if that happens, coon hunting will officially be on its last grasp of life. IMO

X2! Like there isn't enough of that sh!t already! If people like those hunts so well for the life of me I don't know why they don't just go hunt those regs and let UKC do what UKC does!

Posted by Josh Michaelis on 02-10-2016 02:21 PM:

Re: Re: Re: UKC Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by RLenhart
X2! Like there isn't enough of that sh!t already! If people like those hunts so well for the life of me I don't know why they don't just go hunt those regs and let UKC do what UKC does!

They do.

UKC started the Super Slam series to attract us, we didnt force them to do it. I for one think that it is a great idea. Why anyone would think that giving back to the hunter is something bad is beyond me.

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 02-10-2016 02:21 PM:

Re: Re: UKC Hunts

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When and if that happens, coon hunting will officially be on its last grasp of life. IMO

That is pure non sense

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Posted by sleepy head on 02-10-2016 02:29 PM:

What I'm saying if we lose regular UKC hunts. I missed the word "more" and thought "all" in the question

Posted by T Felderman on 02-10-2016 02:45 PM:

I'm perfectly happy hunting 2 hours for $20 or less dollars and getting a win slip. The plastic trophy is just a bonus.

Posted by JiM on 02-10-2016 02:50 PM:

With the $250 entry fee for the Super Slams, it should be obvious that they will never rival the yellow slip hunts. If you're worried about that, you are looking for something to worry about.
I love the SS hunts, plan to hunt at least 5 this year. Best new program UKC has. I sure hope they run with them.

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Posted by sleepy head on 02-10-2016 02:57 PM:

I'm looking forward to the ss myself, we have a good schedule here in IN

Posted by Josh Michaelis on 02-10-2016 03:11 PM:

I'm buying an entry to the one in legrand. Love the rule changes, and think UKC is doing a good job holding hunts that everybody can enjoy.

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Posted by cain99 on 02-10-2016 04:29 PM:

Honestly, UKC would attract a lot more people. A lot better dogs & bigger events. I'd rather have the ability to win an entry fee back rather than a win slip or a trophy or titling a dog. Some of you may feel different, just my opinion. to me, granding a dog out & finishing it is nothing & just a title. I've hunted with GrNt's that would tree on a corn stalk. I think Hunts with $$$ involved would bring out quite a few more people & have events like PKC, you have to qualify & have money won to hunt in something big. Not taking anything away from UKC but it's a great registry.

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Posted by morgan branch on 02-10-2016 06:10 PM:

my opinion; and you asked for them in the original post before we get started::
1 I do not have a problem with ukc having more money hunts it takes all kinds to make the world go round and this shows ukc is being open minded to what the hunters request.
2 I hear a lot of people saying hunting for win slips trophies and titles is pointless,well then don't go! and while your at it burn your ukc papers and think about this when someone is trying to sell all grand puppies.
3 as far as numbers at the hunts 937 dogs at the winter classic is a pretty impressive number of guys that came to hunt for a trophy.
4I do not get the logic that you will have better dogs yes there are gr nt ch that do not deserve this title but there are also *kc champs that do not as well.Comp hunting is like playing poker not every one is willing to sit down to a 250 buy in game of texas holdem but a lot more play a 10$ game so it comes back to numbers and making this sport survive and giving us an avenue to show our hounds and compete with other hunters. does it mean they are any better dog or does it mean you are willing to gamble more money to play the game??
5 without the common ukc or low dollar amount hunts how do we get more people involved to keep our sport alive? When I started going to the hunts back when I was in high school it was my money that I used for entry fees dogs and so forth. I did not have someone paying the bill for me to play so therefore if the entry fees would of been more money I prob would not have got involved in comp hunting same goes for today. If my daughter says she wants to go to a hunt sat and the entry is 20$ we will prob go but if she comes and says dad I want to go to a hunt with 250$ entry we are prob not gonna make it and before you ask yes she is packing a COONDOG but I just am not able to justify taking that kind of money out of my budget to go roll the dice. There is a winner and a loser in every game.
To sum it all up I don't mind if ukc has more money hunts for the ones that want to go to them,but I hope they leave the hunts we have in place alone and leave money out of the equation...... last but certainly not least why do some guys have to come on a ukc board to bitch about them or down grade the registry if you do not like ukc or the way they do things go to the other registry boards that you hunt in and avoid ukc. If you don't like someone why on earth would go to the coffee shop to drink coffee with them..?? jmo

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 02-10-2016 06:22 PM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by cain99
Honestly, UKC would attract a lot more people. A lot better dogs & bigger events. I'd rather have the ability to win an entry fee back rather than a win slip or a trophy or titling a dog. Some of you may feel different, just my opinion. to me, granding a dog out & finishing it is nothing & just a title. I've hunted with GrNt's that would tree on a corn stalk. I think Hunts with $$$ involved would bring out quite a few more people & have events like PKC, you have to qualify & have money won to hunt in something big. Not taking anything away from UKC but it's a great registry.

While I agree with some of what you are saying, UKC is still the most attended registry out there. They would be crazy to change the format that is working for them.

What they have done however was allow people like me that do not enjoy the smaller hunts or their rules, to have a UKC event that I will enjoy, and even changed rules to accommodate what hunters like me were asking for. We can hunt the Slams, try to get into the Grand Masters, support UKC, and not have to deal with a hunt that we do not like.

Others who like to hunt for a title still can, and will continue to do so religiously. UKC has done a good job supplying both with events and kudos to them for it.

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Posted by cain99 on 02-10-2016 07:34 PM:

all i'm saying is that i think UKC should have more events with money involved. JMO!

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Posted by JiM on 02-10-2016 07:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by cain99
all i'm saying is that i think UKC should have more events with money involved. JMO!

I think that is up to the clubs, not UKC. Each club is allowed one Super Slam. How many are taking advantage of that opportunity?

Posted by RLenhart on 02-10-2016 08:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by morgan branch
my opinion; and you asked for them in the original post before we get started::
1 I do not have a problem with ukc having more money hunts it takes all kinds to make the world go round and this shows ukc is being open minded to what the hunters request.
2 I hear a lot of people saying hunting for win slips trophies and titles is pointless,well then don't go! and while your at it burn your ukc papers and think about this when someone is trying to sell all grand puppies.
3 as far as numbers at the hunts 937 dogs at the winter classic is a pretty impressive number of guys that came to hunt for a trophy.
4I do not get the logic that you will have better dogs yes there are gr nt ch that do not deserve this title but there are also *kc champs that do not as well.Comp hunting is like playing poker not every one is willing to sit down to a 250 buy in game of texas holdem but a lot more play a 10$ game so it comes back to numbers and making this sport survive and giving us an avenue to show our hounds and compete with other hunters. does it mean they are any better dog or does it mean you are willing to gamble more money to play the game??
5 without the common ukc or low dollar amount hunts how do we get more people involved to keep our sport alive? When I started going to the hunts back when I was in high school it was my money that I used for entry fees dogs and so forth. I did not have someone paying the bill for me to play so therefore if the entry fees would of been more money I prob would not have got involved in comp hunting same goes for today. If my daughter says she wants to go to a hunt sat and the entry is 20$ we will prob go but if she comes and says dad I want to go to a hunt with 250$ entry we are prob not gonna make it and before you ask yes she is packing a COONDOG but I just am not able to justify taking that kind of money out of my budget to go roll the dice. There is a winner and a loser in every game.
To sum it all up I don't mind if ukc has more money hunts for the ones that want to go to them,but I hope they leave the hunts we have in place alone and leave money out of the equation...... last but certainly not least why do some guys have to come on a ukc board to bitch about them or down grade the registry if you do not like ukc or the way they do things go to the other registry boards that you hunt in and avoid ukc. If you don't like someone why on earth would go to the coffee shop to drink coffee with them..?? jmo

Bravo! Well said, That is exactly my feeling.
I don't have anything against PKC, CHKC or any other registry and I don't have a problem with UKC offering an alternative format to those that want to participate like they're already doing with the slam hunts but I like my $20 UKC hunts. I would seriously miss them if they went away in favor of more money hunts and by the attendance I see at UKC hunts in my area in comparison to $KC hunts I can see I'm far from the only one.

Posted by ssgied on 02-10-2016 08:22 PM:

Any club hunt can be a money hunt if I am not mistaken
They can charge any entry and pay back what ever they want

Posted by Todd_Miller on 02-11-2016 01:33 AM:

I believe the SS were set up to invite the money hunters, it would be nice to see the clubs in Michigan setup a few. I believe UKC also allowed the clubs to have payouts as well at regular hunts.

Posted by DERICK GOLDMAN on 02-12-2016 09:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ssgied
Any club hunt can be a money hunt if I am not mistaken
They can charge any entry and pay back what ever they want

You are correct, last year at the Indiana state hunt we gave away nearly $1000 in cash over 2 nights, some of that was a cal- cutta, but the overall champion won $300 plus his cal-cutta money, for saturday night. I think he went home with around $500 that night.

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Posted by MIKE CARDER on 02-12-2016 01:17 PM:

Money hunts.

I am going to try a couple money hunts this year. I just have a hard time giving 250-300$ for an entry. And I have the money to do so, but I guess its either my hounds aren't that good or I just like to keep my money. Lol. I mean one of the other kc's there is a one time 100$ fee and then I think the entry is 300$ and if you hunt enough of them (3) you can get into a truck hunt and I think the entry is only 250 for that. So 4 hunts your out 1250$, gas, food, hotel stays if far enough and all the family time you lose. I like to competition hunt but not at that price. Maybe if my kids were all grown up and my wife came along. Lol

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Posted by Tyson McComber on 02-12-2016 01:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
I think that is up to the clubs, not UKC. Each club is allowed one Super Slam. How many are taking advantage of that opportunity?

I'm taking over a UKC club here, 20$ entry fees, after I pay UKC what I owe them the rest is going back to cast winners.

Posted by fox_91 on 02-12-2016 03:12 PM:

Men hunt for money, little boys hunt for win slips and a pat on the back.

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Posted by sleepy head on 02-12-2016 03:16 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by fox_91
Men hunt for money, little boys hunt for win slips and a pat on the back.

Neither men or young men enjoy the art of insult

Posted by RLenhart on 02-12-2016 03:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by fox_91
Men hunt for money, little boys hunt for win slips and a pat on the back.

I had a really nice come back written for that but I deleted it because I realized it was stooping to your adolescent level and my comment would have unfairly insulted people on here that enjoy their money hunts without insulting the rest of us.
I will say though "you do sound like a little boy son"

Posted by fox_91 on 02-12-2016 03:28 PM:

Just seen more bickering and useless arguments at UKC. Must be why I've been barred for standing up and using the rules correctly.

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