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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 09-05-2007 04:31 PM:

Hunt Test Update

The hunt test page looks like it might be up and running by the end of the day. You will be able to schedule events, download forms, etc. Obviously you won't be able to see a listing of upcoming events because we don't have any scheduled.

If anyone is in the position with your club to be able to schedule one this afternoon, give me a call or email and I'll get it listed for you. That way when the page gets enabled, there will be one listed in the upcoming events listing so everyone can see how that looks.

Remember, the date you select has to be at least 30 days out. When is your next meeting? Set up a hunt test for after your meeting.

If you call me now I'll schedule it for free!

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Posted by Christy on 09-05-2007 04:38 PM:

SO, OUR MEETINGS ARE THE 1ST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, SO IF OUR NEXT MEETING WAS ON OCTOBER 4 COULD WE SCHEDULE ONE FOR THAT NIGHT?

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Posted by hotrodwalkerman on 09-05-2007 05:27 PM:

Re: Hunt Test Update

quote:
Originally posted by todd kellam
If you call me now I'll schedule it for free!


what does that mean are you going to have to pay just to schedule a hunt


Posted by T.Beyer on 09-05-2007 05:30 PM:

Todd, I am still looking for how we are gonna have these Judged. Will there be a test that has to be administered to become a Judge or can anyone do it?

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Posted by Majestic Tree H on 09-05-2007 05:46 PM:

I believe its a Judge or MOH only ..

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-05-2007 05:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
I believe its a Judge or MOH only ..


I did not see that in the article.

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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 09-05-2007 05:53 PM:

Yeah, I was just kidding about that free thing. There is no fee to schedule a hunt test.

If we schedule one today, it will need to be October 5th or after.

No, anyone can inspect provided they understand and agree to the following:

1. They have not bred, trained or housed the dog they are inspecting and are not a regular hunting partner of the owner or handler of the dog.

2. They have coonhunted for at least five years, are familiar with and can identify the Standard Requirements and Standard Faults.

3. That the evaluation they sign off on is accurate and any misrepresentation is punishable by UKC sanctions.

4. An inspector cannot participate as an owner or handler on the night they are serving as an inspector.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-05-2007 06:01 PM:

Sorry Todd, I should have read more closely.


quote:
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" Inspectors need not be licenced to evaluate dogs in a hunt test.
they need to be able to sign the evaluation form in agreement to three key elements.

1.) May not have bred, trained or housed the dog they are evaluating, and may not be a regular hunting partner of the owner or handler they are evaluating.

2.) They must be able to agree to the statement that they have been an active coonhunting participant for at least 5 years, and be able to identify the criteria for evaluating working coonhounds.

3.) They must sign a release that the evaluation is true and accurate to the best of thier ability, and that they acknowledge the fact that any misrepresentation on the part of the inspector is punishable by UKC sanctions."


Sorry I should have not skimmed this area.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-05-2007 06:02 PM:

Dang I guess I shoulda waited, I was reading and typing at the same time, thanks Todd.

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-05-2007 06:05 PM:

The artickle in the book does not read the same as what you posted Todd! It's close but there are some differences. Do I have to come down there and bother you again?

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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 09-05-2007 07:03 PM:

Come on down anytime (well, except monday and tuesday, i don't work those anymore, lol)

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-05-2007 07:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by todd kellam
Come on down anytime (well, except monday and tuesday, i don't work those anymore, lol)


Work has never really been in your job description has it?


lol!

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Posted by Bear on 09-05-2007 07:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by todd kellam
Come on down anytime (well, except monday and tuesday, i don't work those anymore, lol)


Dang!!!! where can I get a job like that LOL


Posted by on 09-05-2007 09:05 PM:

Looking at the test requirements, I see a "crossed out" coon can only be scored one tree away from the dog. Now there is one that needs to find it's way into the night hunt rule book!


Posted by on 09-05-2007 09:29 PM:

TK- Can you please define "regular hunting partner". I'd like to get involved with these hunt tests but I have probably at one time up to maybe a dozen times hunted with most of our club members that would be interested in this program. Would I be ineligible from judging they're dogs?
Maybe the clubs should get someone from outside they're club to do the judging but I'm sure that will be as easy as finding a MOH.


Posted by on 09-05-2007 09:35 PM:

I would think that generally, club members prolly shouldn't judge fellow club members. Your club could judge your neighboring clubs members and those clubs can judge your members. Not saying that is the rule or policy but it would seem to be good for the integrity of the test.


Posted by Todd K / UKC on 09-05-2007 09:41 PM:

What we are saying is that for many of us, it would about be impossible to say you can't judge anyone you know. Think of how many coonhunters you know? What we are saying is that for the integrity of the program you should not be judging your friends that you hunt with and vice versa. What JiM is suggesting is even a little more strict but I think would be a good club policy if a club has that kind of support.

I'm not saying you can't inspect someone you know. Just saying you can't inspect your friends. Seems simple enough. And I think by having the statement that says we will take disciplinary action if we find that you have misrepresented info will keep it on the up and up.

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Posted by on 09-05-2007 09:45 PM:

Just because I've hunted with them don't make 'em my friends! LOL!!
They're coonhunters for crying out loud!! Even the ones that are your "friends" in your time of need will stab you in the back, talk trash about your dog, hunt in your hunting turf, and will lie and cheat you in a dog deal.
I think I can get what you mean, I can judge a fellow club member's dog but I probably shouldn't judge a dog that I've handled in a hunt or started as a pup or family member's hound, or anyone that I hunt with a majority of the time.


Posted by calblu on 09-06-2007 12:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by todd kellam
I'm not saying you can't inspect someone you know. Just saying you can't inspect your friends. Seems simple enough. And I think by having the statement that says we will take disciplinary action if we find that you have misrepresented info will keep it on the up and up.


Hmmm, we're going to have to start making some enemies out here for this to work!!!


Posted by jackbob42 on 09-06-2007 01:03 AM:

I don't have no friends so I could judge about anybody's dog ! LOL

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-06-2007 02:36 AM:

SHut up Bob, you big Jerk...I like ya.

besides, Bob really isn't my friend, we were supposed to hunt together last night, he never even called me to cancel!

SO now he can judge my dog!

LOL

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Posted by jackbob42 on 09-06-2007 02:51 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by T.Beyer


besides, Bob really isn't my friend, we were supposed to hunt together last night, he never even called me to cancel!




Oh shoot ! That's right ! LOL
Sorry T !
Mike was here for awhile and then I had to take some LP tanks to get them filled , trying to get ready for bear hunting , and forgot. Sorry.
I'll get ahold of you tomorrow.

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Posted by Backswamp Fred on 09-06-2007 03:08 AM:

I have a question, When hunting small blocks can time out be called and moved as in a hunt. If the hour cant be used up in that location?

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Posted by T.Beyer on 09-06-2007 03:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Backswamp Fred
I have a question, When hunting small blocks can time out be called and moved as in a hunt. If the hour cant be used up in that location?


Yes you can call timeout to move and find more woods to finish out your hour.

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Posted by calblu on 09-06-2007 03:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jackbob42
I don't have no friends so I could judge about anybody's dog ! LOL


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