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So I got to thinking about this, this morning. Would you rather hunt a babbler or hunt a junk or trash runner? My preference is towards the trash, because at least its opening at something vs just the air.

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Trash

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If they run junk and get off to themselves somewhere under a coon, it’ll have a home at my house forever.

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Unsure which one he is but Thousand Dollar Bill has been and continues to be a winner. Whichever he is he is for sure a coon treeer !! Out of curiosity for anyone who has hunted with him could you tell when he switched over or when he actually strikes a track. However he does it he certainly has done it well and for a number of years.

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If you haven't hunted with him, how do you know he does one or the other? Just curious.

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I love a trashy pup...
I wouldn’t feed a babbler...

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I'll take a babbler. Majority of them when cut loose by themselves don't bark as much, only when you line 4 dogs up we get the excessive noise. A junk runner is gonna run junk by himself pleasure hunting or on a cast.

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I'll take a babbler. Majority of them when cut loose by themselves don't bark as much, only when you line 4 dogs up we get the excessive noise. A junk runner is gonna run junk by himself pleasure hunting or on a cast.

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I'll take a babbler. Majority of them when cut loose by themselves don't bark as much, only when you line 4 dogs up we get the excessive noise. A junk runner is gonna run junk by himself pleasure hunting or on a cast.

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So I got to thinking about this, this morning. Would you rather hunt a babbler or hunt a junk or trash runner? My preference is towards the trash, because at least its opening at something vs just the air.

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If those are my only two options... I'll take up golf.

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I do not want to deal with a babbler. I can handle a aggressive young hound running off game but NOT running around babbling.

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X2, I can't stand either one. Dave

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I give them a dose of electricity for either.

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Neither one and won't put my dogs in the woods with either one. So,I hunt my dogs to themselves.

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I can stand a little of both when there young. I can even stand very small doses with some age but I won't waste my time on them doing much of either. Winning just isn't as important to me as having a respectable hound I enjoy.

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The junk running, falling off on a coon is not as common as it was 4 to 5 years ago. Now the dogs make it sound so true an honest about what they are doing. We have some sure enough educated babblers now days. You all will disagree with me on what about to say , oh well. The way I see dogs of today is . It doesn’t matter if they are silent or babbling. Both are nothing more than hot nosed run through the country pop a hot coon up type dogs. Both can run a track. But, running a mile or 2 to get under a hot one is what is wanted. We have no real track dogs in these hunts anymore. A hot nosed babbler has won a ton of money. My point is they will have a coon. The babbling is just icing on the cake.

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If you haven't hunted with him, how do you know he does one or the other? Just curious.

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Well in my experience it is much easier to break a dog from babbling than it is from junk.....

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You guys sound like you think this just started not too long ago,a friend of mine bought a dog back in the mid 80's that was a professional at both,and he was a big winner back then.He would leave barking and sometimes he was running something,and maybe not,but he would be by himself under a racoon everytime,sitting on his butt swishing his tail in the leaves.And if something fell on him or bothered him he would try to kill it!He was a grandson of Gann's Finnisher,his name was Gr.Nite Ch. Gr.Ch. Big Mac,he came from Clair Chenoweth.
Ol Mac lived to be 15 and he treed real live racoons right up until he died,he was TOUGH!He was in the final 4 of 4 different World hunts,he never won 1 but he made it to 4 finals!

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You guys sound like you think this just started not too long ago,a friend of mine bought a dog back in the mid 80's that was a professional at both,and he was a big winner back then.He would leave barking and sometimes he was running something,and maybe not,but he would be by himself under a racoon everytime,sitting on his butt swishing his tail in the leaves.And if something fell on him or bothered him he would try to kill it!He was a grandson of Gann's Finnisher,his name was Gr.Nite Ch. Gr.Ch. Big Mac,he came from Clair Chenoweth.
Ol Mac lived to be 15 and he treed real live racoons right up until he died,he was TOUGH!He was in the final 4 of 4 different World hunts,he never won 1 but he made it to 4 finals!

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This comes from a time when we had no way to control a dog. Dogs direct off lipper when I was hunting dogs for the public you had to turn them out every night and even if they treed you did not go to them till daylight you had to get them where they had no hair and they were rundown like an old run out wolf dog that broke out and went to treeing. And then when we got shock collars they learned to out run the juice. knock them down they would get up and keep rollen. But if they made it you had somthing.



Cattail patches full of coons were my friend lol.


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You guys sound like you think this just started not too long ago,a friend of mine bought a dog back in the mid 80's that was a professional at both,and he was a big winner back then.He would leave barking and sometimes he was running something,and maybe not,but he would be by himself under a racoon everytime,sitting on his butt swishing his tail in the leaves.And if something fell on him or bothered him he would try to kill it!He was a grandson of Gann's Finnisher,his name was Gr.Nite Ch. Gr.Ch. Big Mac,he came from Clair Chenoweth.
Ol Mac lived to be 15 and he treed real live racoons right up until he died,he was TOUGH!He was in the final 4 of 4 different World hunts,he never won 1 but he made it to 4 finals!

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I'll take a babbler. Majority of them when cut loose by themselves don't bark as much, only when you line 4 dogs up we get the excessive noise. A junk runner is gonna run junk by himself pleasure hunting or on a cast.

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I know it was around back then. I'm just curious if you had to chose 1 or the other which would it be?

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