Registered: Feb 2015
Location: Roundhill Kentucky
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Got a 2 year old
Gets around good makes plenty off trees only 50 % accurate.
Runs some tracks good and just comes tree on other. Still misses either way.
Sometimes I believe hes messing with squirrels and sometime I believe hes trying to wind coons and tree lay ups and misses
Any training tips or advice
Thanks

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Location: Ohio
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Break the dog from squirrels in the yard during the day and early evening. The best way is break them before they tree them.

Get hold of Wild Willy on here. He taught me how to do it.

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MY ADVISE WOULD BE EITHER TO ACCEPT HIM FOR WHAT HE IS A 50% DOG OR MOVE ON ,

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Shoot less coon to him if that is the issue?! Or accept what you have

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CCI makes a great pill you can get relatively cheap. Other brands out there that are equally effective as well. Yet to see any of these dog whisperers fix that problem but I’ve got my fingers and toes crossed.

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Originally posted by Jmiller85
Got a 2 year old
Gets around good makes plenty off trees only 50 % accurate.
Runs some tracks good and just comes tree on other. Still misses either way.
Sometimes I believe hes messing with squirrels and sometime I believe hes trying to wind coons and tree lay ups and misses
Any training tips or advice
Thanks

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I agree cci makes a fine cure. If accuracy isn’t bred in them at best you will be able to slow um down to a degree but you will nvr cure an accuracy issue completely. Welcome to breeding tree power to tree power for generations

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If your seeing 50% of the coons you tree sounds to me you got a real accurate dog. Had a guy tell me he had a 90% accurate dog I called BS so we hunted 3 nights together and started counting. Turns out ole 90% turned into a 30% dog in 3 nights despite what you read on this forum there's no such thing. You make 4 trees 2 dens and look at 2 most call that 100% when really that's 50%.

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With that powerful nose he's got, if he doesn't know when a coon is in a tree how am I supposed to know?

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Originally posted by Clovis A Nailor
If your seeing 50% of the coons you tree sounds to me you got a real accurate dog. Had a guy tell me he had a 90% accurate dog I called BS so we hunted 3 nights together and started counting. Turns out ole 90% turned into a 30% dog in 3 nights despite what you read on this forum there's no such thing. You make 4 trees 2 dens and look at 2 most call that 100% when really that's 50%.

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Terrain and hunting conditions can change a lot of dogs percentage.


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If you have hunted any length of time you'll know when they are missing to many. But 50% of coon eyes is outstanding. I wished I had a 50% dog I would wear them out at the hunts around here. I have what folks consider a top female around my area and she is a legitimate 30% dog

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Originally posted by Cotton 1927
your making way to much common sense, it's much easier to talk 90% than to show you 90% ...but oh! I know my dog I'm sure it was there in that den! Lol

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I had a Nailor female that was very accurate she wasn't a competition dog.Wanted to be right so she wouldn't lock down fast enough. When she treed I expected to see a coon. Really I can't ever remember her treeing and I would think slick. But if I kept a tally on all the trees she treed on maybe 40% I look at it like this if I don't see a coon that tree don't count even though it's got big hole in it or summer time hunting where you simply can't shine the tree. Be honest with yourself if you where depending on coon meat to survive does that big ole tree count. Now I will agree where you hunt does make a difference.

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If your seeing 50% of the coons you tree sounds to me you got a real accurate dog. Had a guy tell me he had a 90% accurate dog I called BS so we hunted 3 nights together and started counting. Turns out ole 90% turned into a 30% dog in 3 nights despite what you read on this forum there's no such thing. You make 4 trees 2 dens and look at 2 most call that 100% when really that's 50%.

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If you hunt some nights and your dog doesn't get treed the percent is 0 % you gotta have a tree before you start getting a % I'd rather have a few slicks than not having any trees but that's just me.....Colvis is saying what most don't wanna hear.....l

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If you hunt some nights and your dog doesn't get treed the percent is 0 % you gotta have a tree before you start getting a % I'd rather have a few slicks than not having any trees but that's just me.....Colvis is saying what most don't wanna hear.....l

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Here's how that 90% comes into play. Make 10 trees look at 4 coons 5 trees where big trees I know my dog there had to be a coon up there and 1 tree was a fence post. 90%.

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Originally posted by shadinc
Times I want to shine a slick tree: Never, at no time, under no circumstances. I see no reason to walk 500 yards through water, briers, snakes, and mosquitos to shine a slick tree. I can do that in my back yard.

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I think what the man that started the thread meant to say is I have a 10% accurate dog is there any way to get him to 25%

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I had a Nailor female that was very accurate she wasn't a competition dog.Wanted to be right so she wouldn't lock down fast enough. When she treed I expected to see a coon. Really I can't ever remember her treeing and I would think slick. But if I kept a tally on all the trees she treed on maybe 40% I look at it like this if I don't see a coon that tree don't count even though it's got big hole in it or summer time hunting where you simply can't shine the tree. Be honest with yourself if you where depending on coon meat to survive does that big ole tree count. Now I will agree where you hunt does make a difference.

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That's very impressive I'm not saying they don't exist I just have never seen one of that caliber and I've coon hunted for 40 years. Where I live there are several well known handlers so alot of times a $50 0pen entry can have the same people you see in the finals at the super stakes

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clovis A Nailor
That's very impressive I'm not saying they don't exist I just have never seen one of that caliber and I've coon hunted for 40 years. Where I live there are several well known handlers so alot of times a $50 0pen entry can have the same people you see in the finals at the super stakes [/QUOTE

I will tell you the walker that’s a running dog that will tree is much more pleasurable to hunt. It doesn’t matter when you cut her what time of year ect she’s the same with her accuracy. She DONT WANT TO tree she trees cause there is no more track to run. The English female just wouldn’t miss unless the accords were falling or it was brutally cold. But the English bitch would switch zip codes if she was dry holed. So many cast she lost because she would be out of hearing under the meat.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clovis A Nailor
That's very impressive I'm not saying they don't exist I just have never seen one of that caliber and I've coon hunted for 40 years. Where I live there are several well known handlers so alot of times a $50 0pen entry can have the same people you see in the finals at the super stakes [/QUOTE

I will tell you the walker that’s a running dog that will tree is much more pleasurable to hunt. It doesn’t matter when you cut her what time of year ect she’s the same with her accuracy. She DONT WANT TO tree she trees cause there is no more track to run. The English female just wouldn’t miss unless the accords were falling or it was brutally cold. But the English bitch would switch zip codes if she was dry holed. So many cast she lost because she would be out of hearing under the meat.

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I see that leaving the country will get you beat alot. Really don't know why they breed for it. These are small areas we hunt lots of clear cuts and deep run off creeks. Lots of trees that blow over across the deep walled creeks you don't know how many times I have seen dogs blow up treed on them logs. Seen a dog leave out the other night at a hunt went about a mile but didn't have the mouth to hear him he knew he was treed really quick but couldn't talk any one into hearing him. Went to him after the hunt had a coon in the only oak tree in a forty acre clear.

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