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Originally posted by yadkinriver
You've been doing your homework. In purebred, tight bred families that start showing what you refer to as tired blood an outcross will give you hybrid vigor and is referred to as an f-1 hybrid. To maintain this hybrid vigor take the f1 hybrid that matches your breed the most in genotype and phenotype and breed back to your side, In some breeds 7/8 is considered pure and some breeds it's 15/16.
When you start breeding hybrid to hybrid you start losing uniformity in genotype and phenotype. Thats why years ago we were lucky to get two good pups from a litter. Now good breeders have locked in traits and it's obvious that it can be overdone but it's not unusal to see whole litters that run and tree.
Hope this explains why the f1 hybrid is most likely of the xbreeds to be outstanding and it's possible to get an outstanding dog from a hybrid to hybrid mating but it's also possible for a blind hog to find an acorn too.
Excellent post Yadkinriver... I was wanting to start a thread to talk about the pros and cons on crossbreeding dogs...IMO there has to be a legit and sound plan and reasoning for breeding this way...
As a little kid all my hunting dogs were mutts and they all hunted because a half to whole rabbit was their main food supply...no hunt and no eat...we didnít have many scraps because there were nine kids in my family...took a lot of hands to run a farm...
So I didnít worm nor vaccinate pups or dogs...never been to the Vet during those times...I grew up and bought a purebred registered pup and right at 4 months of age he got really sick so I finally took him to the vet...first time ever to see the vet and first time ever with a purebred... well the vet asked if I had given the puppy shots and I said no...long story short the pup caught distemper and died...the vet said there was nothing he could do...it was too late and at the very least if he lived he wouldnít be 100 percent...research back then wasnít easy, no forums nor computers...info came slow...but researching told me that purebred dogs do not have a diversified gene pool as would a mutt, that is why they look alike when bred...the less diversified the more the dogs look like a breed or strain...diversification in crossbreeds equals better health and agrees with what has been said about Hybrid Vigor...
But I say this so I can speak of other personal theories...
The coyote and diversification...I will continue once I have more time...
Training dogs is not so much about quantity, it's more about timing, and the right situations...After that it's up to the dog....A hunting dog is born...
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