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Q&A's - Slam Events

Slam Events:

Clubs may schedule any one or more of their scheduled dates as a Slam Event. Clubs have the option of $20, $30 or $50 entry fees.

$20 and $30 entry fees pay out 55% of the total entry income. $50 entry fees pay out 75% of the total entry income.

Performance Points are awarded at Slam events.

Dogs will be drawn out in two divisions (Registered and Champion/Grand Champion).

Up to three placements awarded, based on highest first-round scores of both divisions, if Final Cast chooses to split cash award. If Final Cast hunts, dogs will place in the event according to scores in this cast.

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Ask your questions here, as they relate specifically to Slams. We'll try to answer them in a timely manner. Thanks.

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Slams

1. How many Slams can one club have a year?
2. If a registered winner gets in the final 4 and they hunt, does the registered get another CW for winning the late round?

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In Slam events all dogs have always drawn out together, why is that changing? It makes it easier for clubs when searching for guides. That was the biggest plus with slam events in my opinion.

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Re: Slams

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Originally posted by TylerOSU
1. How many Slams can one club have a year?
2. If a registered winner gets in the final 4 and they hunt, does the registered get another CW for winning the late round?




1. A club may now schedule all of their events as Slams, if they want. There's no limit. Under current Slam rules, we give out four First-Place wins. Under the new format, everything is based off of cast wins, so it we are able to allow clubs to have as many as they want. I see a lot of clubs choosing to go with all Slams.

2. A Final Cast cast win would not count towards a dogs championship degree. It's one we were on the fence with for a while but, in the end, the nay's exceeded the yay's.

Good questions. Thank you.

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Thankyou!

Thanks Allen! I'm sure there are more but I'll think of them later!

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quote:
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In Slam events all dogs have always drawn out together, why is that changing? It makes it easier for clubs when searching for guides. That was the biggest plus with slam events in my opinion.



Good point and it probably did make it easier for some clubs to have a cast or two less, where guides were concerned.

The main reason for the change was the fact that there was a lot of push to allow PPR points to be earned at Slam events. PRP are not awarded at those events where all categories draw out together. Drawing opens out separately from Champs allows for PRP points to now be awarded at Slams.

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Alan,

What about qualifying slams? Will we still be able to have them and if so do we separate reg. and champions?

Thanks.

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can the double header hunts also be slam hunts for both rounds?

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quote:
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Alan,

What about qualifying slams? Will we still be able to have them and if so do we separate reg. and champions?

Thanks.



Tim, this is one that has not yet been decided. I'll get you an answer as soon as possible.

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quote:
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Good point and it probably did make it easier for some clubs to have a cast or two less, where guides were concerned.

The main reason for the change was the fact that there was a lot of push to allow PPR points to be earned at Slam events. PRP are not awarded at those events where all categories draw out together. Drawing opens out separately from Champs allows for PRP points to now be awarded at Slams.



I donít see where it makes a difference if they draw out together. I would be willing to hunt my open dog against three GrNtís and still be happy with winning PPR and Slam money. I understand UKC wants more dogs at the hunts. Our local clubs would also like more dogs at the hunts. There have been several times over the past few years where guides have not hunted because they were needed to guide a different category/division. I also see Hunt Directors sitting at the club wishing they could hunt.

I wish the higher ups would rethink this decision and let all compete together and reward the points. I also would like to see UKC allow Hunt Directors participate in the hunt. I think both of these decisions would help the local clubs greatly.

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quote:
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can the double header hunts also be slam hunts for both rounds?


Yes, clubs may schedule a DH where both are Slam events. In the case of a Double Header Slam, a Final Cast will not have the option to hunt it off. The Final Four will have to split the earnings.

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club earnings

Allen, this is a club question on slams whether 55% or 75% pay outs, what is the club portion of those events and UKC portions?

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Re: club earnings

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Allen, this is a club question on slams whether 55% or 75% pay outs, what is the club portion of those events and UKC portions?



The clubs portion would be 45% of the entry income in $20 and $30 Slams.

In a $50 Slam the clubs portion would be 25% of the entry income. This option pays slightly more to the club than the $30 hunt but not much more. In this case, the hunters,winners would benefit more.

In either case, UKC's income would come from the club portion, which is the same as it has been and same as any regular event ($25 license fee and $2 per dog recording fee).

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Re: club earnings

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Allen, this is a club question on slams whether 55% or 75% pay outs, what is the club portion of those events and UKC portions?



Tony Beal here is the breakdown for what clubs would get per dog entry in the mini slams after payout and UKC $2.per dog.


Entry Clubs Profit

$20.00 $7.00 per dog

$30.00 $11.50 per dog

$50.00 $10.50 per dog

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Alan,

Any word on Qualifying slams yet?

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our slam event scheduled on 12-15-18 will be held based on the old format and any slam event after Jan 1 will be under the new format ,is this correct?

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our slam event scheduled on 12-15-18 will be held based on the old format and any slam event after Jan 1 will be under the new format ,is this correct?

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Re: Re: club earnings

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Tony Beal here is the breakdown for what clubs would get per dog entry in the mini slams after payout and UKC $2.per dog.


Entry Clubs Profit

$20.00 $7.00 per dog

$30.00 $11.50 per dog

$50.00 $10.50 per dog



You left out the license fee. The profit margin will always change based on entry numbers because of the additional $25.00. The lower the number of entries, the greater impact it has on the clubs return.

5 entries @ $30.00 entry fee = $150
45% = $67.50
minus license and recording fees ($35) = $32.50
Club profit per dog = $6.50


10 entries @ $30.00 entry fee = $300
45% = $135
minus license and recording fees ($45) = $90
Club profit per dog = $9.00

20 entries @ $30.00 entry fee = $600
45% = $270
minus license and recording fees ($65) = $205
Club profit per dog = $10.25

(Even with an entry of 100 dogs you still don't reach the $11.50 per dog.)

The fair way would be to take the license and recording fees out before breaking down the club/ hunter payout. Clubs make a little more, hunters receive a little less.


10 entries @ $30.00 entry fee = $300
minus license and recording fees ($45) = $255
45% = $114.75
Club profit per dog = $11.48
In this scenario the hunters receive around $9 less per cast, but the club receives an additional income of $24.80
It takes the hunters and clubs both to put on an event. Only fair they both share in the kennel club's cost for licensing the event.

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What about the $100 and $200 super slams and the Grand Masters invitational? Can a club still schedule the super slams?

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Any word on Qualifying slams yet?



Not yet Tim. Hold your mules.

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What about the $100 and $200 super slams and the Grand Masters invitational? Can a club still schedule the super slams?


The Super Slams will go away but the Grand Masters will stay. More to come on that later.

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What about qualifying slams? Will we still be able to have them and if so do we separate reg. and champions?

Thanks.



I now have an answer for you Tim. We'll continue to allow Qual. Slams on an approved basis. The only difference between a regular Slam and a Qual. Slam will be that; in a QS ALL dogs will need to be drawn out together. The reason for this is to be consistent in how dogs qualify via a RQE.

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In these new slams. Can Hunt Director format be used?

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