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mitchell6965
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Training question or ideas, please.

Hello Houndsman,

I have a young TW hound that has a lot of good tools and I like her pretty good.

A little history on her. She is a 2 year old female that was started when i bought her out of North Carolina at the age of 15 months old. She was walked around bucket feeders before i bought her. She didn't have no hustle to her at that time.
I brought her to Indiana and was working her hard, making her go hunting by herself. She adjusted quickly and will bust a hole in the dark. I've seen her go a mile but she hunts out nice and not just straight line gone. She went from opening freely on track to stone silent here in Indiana? She is very ACCURATE. All of a sudden she has started opening up on track and moving them good.

Here is my issue. She does not want to tree with anything. I asked previous owners and they informed me they used to discipline her if she was ever with another dog. The issue I am having is she hears another dog treed or trailing and she covers to them and will hunt around them even coming past the tree while you are at the tree. She used to make a jealous tree 20-40 yards away and make you a believer. She quit doing that but she will not tree with anything but yet she won't bust in the country and get to herself only 50% of the time. What would you do to get her to either tree and cover them or bust in and get treed to herself? She split trees all the time but if you recast to dogs competing for strike she goes to the area of dogs treed or trailing. I want her since she isn't going to cover them go another direction and get hooked?

I usually have no issues working or fixing problems but I am stumped on the recasting and how to fix it just because if you turned loose in a cast together and they all strike a red hot track and jam a coon, I hear her locate and tree in front of dogs but i cannot tree her because she not going to tree when a dog or dogs cover her?

Thank you for your time.

Mitchell

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HUNT HER BY HERE SELF UNTIL SHE HAS A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN HERSELF SHE MIGHT NOT EVER BE A COMPETITION DOG BUT FOCUS ON HUNTING HER BY HERSELF.

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Thank you myhoss,

I do hunt her by herself majority of the time but trying to get her ready so she can earn her $ for fall ss.

Mitchell

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What did you do to get her to hunt harder and deeper?

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Looks to me like you have a dog that is really cross-threaded; she doesn't know what to do. Ive had dogs that were jealous tree dogs, if they didn't tree first they wouldn't stay treed, tough to fix, takes time. I think I'd do something different, I'd quit hunting her by herself, hunt her with other dogs, make it fun for her for a while, let her seek her own level and when she becomes consistant, slowly turn her in the direction you want to go. If you're looking for a quick fix, it ain't gonna happen, if you cant spend the time with her, pass her on to someone who can.

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i would lay her up for awhile . at least 30 days . bring her back out with no shock collar around her neck . let her put some of her past experiences behind her . if you continue with the shocking all you are doing is setting her back more every push of the button.

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Pollard247 all I did was give her the opportunity to go hunting. She was Judy given the opportunity or asked to go. When I work a young dog and am starting to singling them out I do the same thing over and I ever again. Using repetition, I will turn on muy light the direction I am see sending them and i grab their collar and unsnap the lead while holding onto the collar. When i turn the hound loose, i use my mouth and make a noise like pppphhhhhiiiittttt, pppphhhhhiiiittttt as i release them. They get used to me doing that and know whenever they hear that, it means I want them to go hunting. If the dog goes a little bit, but comesI back i put them back on a lead and walk 10 yards and repeat. I keep doing this several times if they still won't go, I usually find a thin hickory switch and give them an attention getter as I release them with the same steps as before. I am not looking for the dog to do anything but to get away from me. I has see waited for hours knowing the dog is just 50-75 yards just staying away. I don't let the dog win this battle, ill wait them out. ( but make note, I always am 100% sure this young dog is mature enough and has showed me they have ability and know what they are doing before I have singled them out.

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First YOU need to decide what you want her to do cover or go on.

If you want her to cover that's easy... When something gets treed ahead of her and she makes a jealous tree nearby leash her up and take her to the other dogs tree and pet her up and kill the coon. It won't take long and she'll be a party animal.

If you want her to go on... leave the other dog treed and send her on hunting from close by. When she gets treed away from the other dog go to her pet her up and shoot the coon. If she's smart she'll figure out right quick to go find her own.

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