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Hoosier Outlaw
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Thinking of trying some dual breedings...anyone tried yet?

I'm thinking of trying some dual breedings (using two studs or frozen semen from 2 on one female)
Just wondering if anyone else has tried it...did you use live studs or frozen semen, and did you get an even mix or did one stud dominate over the other when you got the DNA results back?
I've done a fair bit of homework on it...but have not heard from anyone who has done it and got a mix of pups from both sires....seems the few I know of ended up with pups all from one sire or the other.

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Re: Thinking of trying some dual breedings...anyone tried yet?

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I'm thinking of trying some dual breedings (using two studs or frozen semen from 2 on one female)
Just wondering if anyone else has tried it...did you use live studs or frozen semen, and did you get an even mix or did one stud dominate over the other when you got the DNA results back?
I've done a fair bit of homework on it...but have not heard from anyone who has done it and got a mix of pups from both sires....seems the few I know of ended up with pups all from one sire or the other.



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Hoosier Outlaw
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There's doing it...and then there is doing it right...lol
That's one of the attempts I know about but they all came from one stud. I talked to Dean at Nevergone and he said he would try to match the semen as closely as possible. Said use either both live studs or both frozen semen so that all the sperm have as equal motility as possible. Just wondering if anyone has actually had any success and got pups from both sires in the same litter?

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My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
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Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
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2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
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Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
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Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
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Rob Childers has done it. Maybe get with him

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Didn't do it intentionally but ended up all from 1

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Jay Brademeyer got pups from both males on a split breed I think.

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Hoosier outlaw

You have a couple of Pm's

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Mrs. Childers has done it numerous times and should be a good one to discuss with. It requires extra paperwork and DNA for sire, dam, and all pups.

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Hoosier Outlaw
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Thanks for the information everyone. I have been in Wisconsin at the cabin for the past week and have not been on here much to read through the responses. I asked the same question on Facebook and Mrs. Childers commented there so I think I have what I need.
It's something I have often thought about doing...but just never have. With the program we have and the use of littermate females...we often make different crosses on littermates and if it works really well...we can then take the other sister back to that stud. So, making crosses with two different studs at the same time could potentially get more dominant studs that we want to cross other females on identified as the kind of reproducers we are looking for earlier. It would also help to only breed the females we compete heavily with once a year ....like in the winter....but get two different crosses from different studs that would normally take a year or more to produce. This would be less wearing on the female and allow her to compete more months out of the year.

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Hoosier Outlaw / Moonlight Redbones
1994 American Redbone Coonhound Association Hunter of the Year
My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
(((( Current Favorites ))))
2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Addiction
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Overdose
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Jinx
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