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intact male hound.

I've never had a female dog but i just got a 6 month rescue female beagle pup. I introduced her to my intact male redbone and he chased her around and wouldn't stop trying to mate her and he'd bark at her and just wouldn't leave the poor pup alone. He won't eat cause he wants her so bad and he won't listen to anything i say. I'm getting him neutered in a month but is their anything i could do to get him to stop this.

Any help would be appreciated,
Eric.

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Doesn't usually happen to a pup younger than six months.
Old timers used to use Vick's Vapo rub to overmark the scent of a female in season. Doesn't work unless the female is well on the way in or out, not if she's fully in.
If the pup is still too young to be coming in season, I'd have the vet check HER out. Maybe she is coming in early. Sometimes that happens, especially if she's been eating the wrong stuff. Try changing her food.
Also, give her a bath--there may be some scent left over from somewhere before you got her.
If the male is over two, neutering him probably won't do much good--his habits are set.
He's probably harassing her to dominate her rather than having to do with sex, but dogs usually won't do that to a true pup. Adults let pups up to about six months do whatever they want--it's called a "puppy pass."
I'd tie him or kennel him or otherwise keep them apart until he gets over it, and/or use a shock collar on him every time he tries.

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I have had a couple of females over the years that had their first heat cycle at 6 months of age.

In fact the first female I had that did that literally ripped tongue and grooved wood siding off the building to her herself bred. While it isn't common it is very possible.

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Originally posted by Emily
Doesn't usually happen to a pup younger than six months.
Old timers used to use Vick's Vapo rub to overmark the scent of a female in season. Doesn't work unless the female is well on the way in or out, not if she's fully in.
If the pup is still too young to be coming in season, I'd have the vet check HER out. Maybe she is coming in early. Sometimes that happens, especially if she's been eating the wrong stuff. Try changing her food.
Also, give her a bath--there may be some scent left over from somewhere before you got her.
If the male is over two, neutering him probably won't do much good--his habits are set.
He's probably harassing her to dominate her rather than having to do with sex, but dogs usually won't do that to a true pup. Adults let pups up to about six months do whatever they want--it's called a "puppy pass."
I'd tie him or kennel him or otherwise keep them apart until he gets over it, and/or use a shock collar on him every time he tries.

Would neutering help if he's one year?

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Neutering might help if he's only a year. However, most of us don't like to neuter a dog before we know whether he's a decent hunter or not, which is hard to know when he's still that young. You may want a pup off him some day.
Most pet dog owners neuter their male dogs between six months and a year and a half--before that there are (unusual) health consequences; after that it may help with aggression but is unlikely to help with sex drive, although it will prevent actual reproduction.
Most vets encourage people to neuter their dogs, assuming the owner will let the dog roam the neighborhood and knock up any intact female for miles around. You may want to get a second opinion from another vet, an old-fashioned country-style one.
Most hunters don't neuter their intact males or females. As someone who has neutered some of mine, I can assure you they hunt just fine and they're less apt to quarrel at the tree if you do that. With females, it saves all the bother surrounding heat cycles, too. I had one male that I neutered late (he was cryptorchid--I kept hoping the other would come down), at about four years. He continued to hump females in season for the rest of his life.
If you're new to the sport and unlikely to come up with a coondog that everyone wants to breed their female to, there's no harm in it. But, if you'd maybe like to breed him some day, you should think hard about it before you do it. It can't be reversed. If you're unlikely to breed either one, neuter them both!

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She may be coming into season or she may have a UTI. A UTI often smells like a bitch in season to a dog.

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Neutering might help if he's only a year. However, most of us don't like to neuter a dog before we know whether he's a decent hunter or not, which is hard to know when he's still that young. You may want a pup off him some day.
Most pet dog owners neuter their male dogs between six months and a year and a half--before that there are (unusual) health consequences; after that it may help with aggression but is unlikely to help with sex drive, although it will prevent actual reproduction.
Most vets encourage people to neuter their dogs, assuming the owner will let the dog roam the neighborhood and knock up any intact female for miles around. You may want to get a second opinion from another vet, an old-fashioned country-style one.
Most hunters don't neuter their intact males or females. As someone who has neutered some of mine, I can assure you they hunt just fine and they're less apt to quarrel at the tree if you do that. With females, it saves all the bother surrounding heat cycles, too. I had one male that I neutered late (he was cryptorchid--I kept hoping the other would come down), at about four years. He continued to hump females in season for the rest of his life.
If you're new to the sport and unlikely to come up with a coondog that everyone wants to breed their female to, there's no harm in it. But, if you'd maybe like to breed him some day, you should think hard about it before you do it. It can't be reversed. If you're unlikely to breed either one, neuter them both!

Thanks for the info it was useful to me.

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Or you might have what we around here call a cock hound and most ive owned and seen didnt turn out to good all they want to do is hump everything males females it dont matter as long as they mount up hope its not has he been put in with a male dog before

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many young male dogs think they can hump anything he needs socialized with some older dogs that will put him in his place ! if he was here and we went hunting my old female would teach him this behavior is unacceptable right now !

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