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Over the years I've wondered do some dogs really have better noses (Scent/Tracking Abilities) then other dogs, or do all dogs have the same nose, and the good ones are just intelligent enough to know how to use their nose. What do you all think? 1. Nose, 2. Brains, or is it Both?

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I'm not sure any of us know for sure.

I just know that some dogs will and can work colder tracks than other dogs.

I'm not sure if it is that they have a more powerful ability to smell, or if their excitability threshold is lower.

In other words, it takes less scent to make them start a track.

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It takes both to work nose and brains you ever hunted a dumb dog with a lot of nose they usually are all over the place till somthing gets the track going the right way.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
It takes both to work nose and brains you ever hunted a dumb dog with a lot of nose they usually are all over the place till somthing gets the track going the right way.

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John mentioned EXCITABILITY LEVEL. I think that is the trigger mechanism that kind of ties, their nose and brains together.

I want to say that I think all our hounds all pretty much can smell the same things. It is just the excitability lever they have that triggers their desire to find what they are smelling.

Then again I have seen 4 dogs taken out of trucks and leashed ready to turn loose and one goes crazy and you see a coon 30 or 40 yards out there in a tree. The dogs are walked and then cut loose and the one that went crazy comes back and tries to find the tree that coon is in. The others go on.
Makes you think they didn't smell that coon at all. Maybe just the amount of sent that there was didn't excite them.

50 years from now on this board I think the same questions will be asked and the same wide selection of answers will be tossed around. Guess I am getting old and have to make all this easy to understand. I am starting to not care about how or why they do it. I just want to see a coon in the tree.

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Guess I am getting old and have to make all this easy to understand. I am starting to not care about how or why they do it. I just want to see a coon in the tree.

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Why can some dogs rig and others can't. I got pups that's just started that will rig a coon. And have real deal coon hounds in truck that don't rig. There is difference in nose!

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Why can some dogs rig and others can't. I got pups that's just started that will rig a coon. And have real deal coon hounds in truck that don't rig. There is difference in nose!

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One without the other all you have is a dog that will tree a coon!! put both under one hide!! you have a well above average coondog!! that's why they arnt bunches of them out there!! some of these crosses will put one or the other in there off spring but its hard to get a sire or dam to put both in the off spring!! They tree coon but will always lack something that makes them great!! at treeing coon!! In my family it was that way some had brains and well the others!! were lacking something!!lol

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No two dogs are alike. It would be ridiculous to think that they were. Some are smarter than others. Some have better noses than others. Some are laid back and some are hyper. You will have to go through a bunch of them to get a super smart, cold nosed, laid back but not lazy dog.

I had 2 five and six year old males once. One was super smart and had a cold nose and a beautiful mouth. He would get struck, work a track excellently and get treed with a coon. He was real stylish and a pleasure to watch and listen to. The other was chop mouth all the way. He was all business. When you turned him loose, he just went out and treed a coon. He sure didn't look or sound good doing it but he treed a lot more coons than the other dog. They were completely different and I never did decide which one I liked better.

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Enough brains to use the nose they have. Makes a great hide dog!!

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I know in the Bluetick world that Ol Chief's offspring had a little more natural winding than some lines. Also Sparetime Spanky dogs. In the Running Bullet lines you could pretty much assure yourself that you were going to get some out of each cross that would have this ability. Not that they all did, I've seen some that stood smooth on their heads that I thought would be that cross that they would all be world beaters. But as a general rule I really do think that brains will win that race pretty much everytime.

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