Registered: Jan 2016
Location: NW GA
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Need some good advice, I've got a omcba cur combo dog, this dog is almost 3 yrs old, this dog is a real nice young dog with 1 problem that I am seeking advice for. Once he trees Coon or squirrel he barks enough to let you know he treed but not hard unless he sees it. Once I get to the tree I make home come to me to leash him and then he flips a switch and become an every breath tree dog, what can I do to say leash break him,

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Location: Central Pa
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To be fair I'm not sure you're gonna get any advice that can be much more than a shot in the dark without more information.

Dogs develop some weird quirks sometimes in a variety of weird ways, but there's usually a reason behind it.

Was this dog worked on caged game and hang ups? Was there time spent trying to get squirrels to timber for him? Do you leash him at every tree whether you shoot game out or not?

Seems to me likely the dog is spending time at the tree looking for the game instead of barking. Once your there the leashing up fires him up. There's a reason for that, whether any of the questions I've asked has hit on any of those possible reasons, I don't know.

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Originally posted by Well Started
To be fair I'm not sure you're gonna get any advice that can be much more than a shot in the dark without more information.

Dogs develop some weird quirks sometimes in a variety of weird ways, but there's usually a reason behind it.

Was this dog worked on caged game and hang ups? Was there time spent trying to get squirrels to timber for him? Do you leash him at every tree whether you shoot game out or not?

Seems to me likely the dog is spending time at the tree looking for the game instead of barking. Once your there the leashing up fires him up. There's a reason for that, whether any of the questions I've asked has hit on any of those possible reasons, I don't know.

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Originally posted by cljohnson1028
No cage or hang ups, this dog been hunted hard, started leaching him last season to keep him tighter on the tree, don't always leash him but do most of the time, if I don't leash him he barks more once I get there but not as hard as when he's leashed, whether I shoot out game or not, but have watched him on squirrels when working a track and trying to tree it being a den and see him watch/listen before treeing, so this could lead to the leash issue, have made them timber just shooting at them, but it makes him go crazy. Season closes feb 29 so may get another night/day in before season closes to get game out on him, I hunt all year so this will give me something to work on once leaves are on, but where to start,

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This has been a good season at first but last few months many dens, we hunt a lot of management land ( grassy mt & johns mt ) if he trees is he gets it, may be my fault in this issue, hunts hard and minds better than my kids, handles better that a nice shot gun, this is the only complaint I have so looks like my job is during off season , if it's a den or can't find it just tell him hole and he pulls right off and gone to find another one

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Originally posted by cljohnson1028
This has been a good season at first but last few months many dens, we hunt a lot of management land ( grassy mt & johns mt ) if he trees is he gets it, may be my fault in this issue, hunts hard and minds better than my kids, handles better that a nice shot gun, this is the only complaint I have so looks like my job is during off season , if it's a den or can't find it just tell him hole and he pulls right off and gone to find another one

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Originally posted by moleman
I am not sure what you are asking, i am thinking you want your dog to bark more before you get there and less or shut up when you get to the tree, if that is it i don't think they are anyway to get him to bark more unless you stick tight to him and make some timber to get him fired up,

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We maybe haven't heard the story, but I still don't understand how training a dog to rely on its eyes can possibly help it bark more when 95% of the time the dog will never see the sq when treeing on it's own? I try to get my dogs to do the exact opposite, they will see plenty of squirrels on their own without my help.



In my view based on the info the man provided.......

A. The dog is 3 and has been hunted hard. We're not talking about trying to help fire a pup up 1 time to help get it going.

B. The dog has had plenty of game shot out to it, if it needs timbering squirrels at this point to fire it up, then something is severely missing from the dogs DNA.

C. The man lives in GA and says he hunts hard. Based on numbers alone I'd say it's a safe bet that at 3 yrs old, that dog has already seen more timbering squirrels than 10 dogs here in PA will see in their lifetime.

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Originally posted by moleman
That is where you are lost and confused, 1 It was a perfect dog until a few months ago, 2 It has nothing to do with training the 3 year old dog is beyond that point, 3 What is leash broke at the tree, bark or not bark, 4 If this just happened in a couple of months we never heard the story that caused it, 5 The reason i said get the squirrel to timber is because he said he wants to hear more mouth but he never said where, 6 I am still trying to figure out if he is wanting the dog to bark more before or after and where a dog is hunted has nothing to do with it because if the dog was doing as posted before hand it is a man made problem that is or has caused it because it was a trained and broke dog, 7 How have you got from SHOT IN THE DARK, CAGES AND HANG UPS, USING HIS EYES TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT, to the point you are now ? Have you ever retrained a trained dog this is has this post started and has ended up, Lol.

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Originally posted by moleman
I am not trying to argue just stated facts, If you read all post it is a new problem that has just come up, If not i will give my part of it to Jerry Springer to figure out, Lol.

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Originally posted by moleman
He said he had hunted the dog 2 seasons and he hunts all year long, he said this had been a good season until the last few months many dens, for the sake of both of us i hope he has not hunted the dog for 3 years and now he wants to break him from something he has done for the last 3 years if so, you better book 2 or 3 seats on Jerry, Lol.

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Look I asked for some GOOD advice not an argument about this issue, this has started in the past few months, I wanted advice on how can I get him to tree as hard with me there or not leash or no leash ,

Thanks for all information posted ,

He seen many squirrel and Coon this season , as far as I know it's not a trait from his sire ( Barren river Sniper ). Maybe something from his mom are just with in his own mind the past few months

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Originally posted by cljohnson1028
Look I asked for some GOOD advice not an argument about this issue, this has started in the past few months, I wanted advice on how can I get him to tree as hard with me there or not leash or no leash ,

Thanks for all information posted ,

He seen many squirrel and Coon this season , as far as I know it's not a trait from his sire ( Barren river Sniper ). Maybe something from his mom are just with in his own mind the past few months

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Welllll, from what I've read, your hunting your dog for pleasure ...he's always at tree with the meat, he's barking loud enough and long enough for you to locate him...Sooo....I don't really don't see a problem at all. With all due respect, I think your over reacting . ...In addition , you may call a three year old a "young dog", However , at that age they are pretty much set in their ways..trying to correct this so-called fault at this time , may do more damage then good...JMO....Good luck .

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I AGREE with mike, as long as the dog barks enough for you to find him.I wouldn't worry about his barking more after being leased.if it's a bother, just get some ear plugs.

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