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Mark Blair
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Bone Collector vs Mr. Clean

You really gotta give props to these guys for continuing to hunt these dogs after all the winning they have done. Just wanted to get some opinions from anyone who may have hunted with either or both how they would match up in a head to head battle for say five nights of hunting?

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boy i bet that would be an awesome hunt!

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I don't know who would win, but bone has proven he reproduces.

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I'd say it'd come down to what pet of the country you was huntin

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I'd say it'd come down to what pet of the country you was huntin


I'd say you are exactly right. Thick coons Clean would probably do just that being a good lay up dog. Bone is more or of a get off by himself no matter how deep and have his own coon type dog. I would say it would depend on how thick the coons where in the area.

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Let me throw Bone some Bonus points. Last week at the World Hunt I know for a fact he bred a friends female and I heard he bred one female everyday. He was also hunted and was a double cast winner to advance to the weekend.

We have moved form an era of making Grand Nite and never hunting them again. To Hunting them and breeding them during the same period.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
[B]Let me throw Bone some Bonus points. Last week at the World Hunt I know for a fact he bred a friends female and I heard he bred one female everyday. He was also hunted and was a double cast winner to advance to the weekend.


What a life !!!! Lol

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Re: Re: .

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
[B]Let me throw Bone some Bonus points. Last week at the World Hunt I know for a fact he bred a friends female and I heard he bred one female everyday. He was also hunted and was a double cast winner to advance to the weekend.


What a life !!!! Lol

Yes!!!!! Even better if he didn't have to go through all that cold water and briars at night.

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Re: Bone Collector vs Mr. Clean

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You really gotta give props to these guys for continuing to hunt these dogs after all the winning they have done


Where is clean being hunted?

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AKC world in 13 and Autumn Oaks 14 I think. Talked to a guy that hunted with him just a while back and said he was treeing coon that his dog passed and didn't even know was in the country. I have heard all you have to do is ask and they will take about anybody. Don't know if that's the facts or not but that is what I was told. I know that's the way it is with Bone. Doug will take about anybody about any time. A good friend of mine called and made a trip and he took Bone and one of his pups.

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Where is clean being hunted?

Better question is,,,where hasn't he been hunted..

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Re: Where is clean being hunted?

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Better question is,,,where hasn't he been hunted..


Never seen him at any of the other kennel clubs hunts is why I asked. Seen Doug and bone at the big ones, but not clean. Didn't know if he had been hunted at them or not

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Re: Re: Where is clean being hunted?

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Never seen him at any of the other kennel clubs hunts is why I asked. Seen Doug and bone at the big ones, but not clean. Didn't know if he had been hunted at them or not


Check out his stud page. It has AKC,PKC, UKC and he is up for performance in all three

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They are both special hounds and no doubt have made their mark in the night hunts but I would tend to lean more towards Bone if you hunted them 100 nights straight. Clean was camaigned in PKC by Benny Phipps long before all of his trophy hunt days that brought him his fame. Clean is a Gold Ch and was def one of the top 3 or 4 hounds to beat during his money hunts days. But he never hit big licks at the MAJOR PKC events. Those major events are where the best of the best show up. Now Bone on the other hand always shows up to the big hunts and always makes a deep run if not wins the MAJOR event in the money hunts. That to me tells me Bone would get the edge. I am pretty sure Bone has never been taken to many big trophy hunts to clean house in them like Clean did.

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Since none of us will ever own either one the only thing that matters is which one consistantly throws better pups. I have hunted with several pups from both and Bone gets my vote as a reproducer. JMO.

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.....BONE COLLECTOR...has been there and done that in the ...BIG, NATIONALLY KNOWN COMPETETION HUNTS.. while crawling off the back of females the very same day,....how many can make that statement , Not only is BONE a winner but BONE IS IN A CATAGORY ALL ALONE IN THIS COONHOUND WORLD TODAY,and in my opinion the 2nd place dog in this country is no where close to BONE COLLECTOR WHEN YOU CONSIDER HUNT WINS AND THE REPRODUCING CATAGORY AS ONE....MY VERY REGRET TODAY IS NOT BREEDING TO HARDWOOD BUSTERS GREATEST SON...FLATROCK COMA...In 1992 I carried the 2nd best bitch I have ever owned (GOLDHILL BRED) to HOUSES LIPPER and I got nothin to talk about BUT I TRIED, SOMETIMES IT WORKS AND SOMETIMES IT DONT...BUT THE LEAST ONE CAN DO IS START WITH 2 OF THE BEST.., Not tryiong to take anything from anyones dog but BONE COLLECTOR HAS NOTHIN LEFT TO PROVE...The best advise I would give someone is If you like what you saw in CLEAN or BONE ...GET SOME BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

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I don't generally raise pups and don't generally keep a dog long, but I have a 2 yr old Bone gyp I pretty well raised and trained that I'll probably keep forever. The thing about them for me personally is that they're not just coon treeing dogs, but my kind of coon treeing dogs, and there's enough of them around that I can absolutely say that and back it with evidence. Good mouthes, naturally super independent, big hunters, and I haven't seen a rattle headed one yet. I hate a wide open rattle headed me-tooing idiot. Despise them. And I haven't seen that crap in Bone pups.
Don't know the first thing about Clean or his pups, but I honestly feel like the Bone dog is a/the stud of a generation.

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Both have won in different clubs what bone has done in pkc is out standing and what clean has done in ukc is out standing both can win both can throw winning pups But back to the the original. Question 5 nights head to head im gonna have to go with clean he can hit those layup coon all night and be fast at it and hes good at sucking other dogs in but thats just my opinion

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Question..

how much mouth does bone give on track when trailing ?
i have hunted with 2 younger dogs off bone that were close to semi silent on track and would blow the top out on tree and were independent and fast, that is the type of dog that i like and i was wondering if bone was that way or if they got the tighter mouth from the bitch ..

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I have talked to alot of people that hunted with bone. They said he was simi and be alone with 2 lookin down.

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My bone dog is semi silent although Ivr heard him open on ground some but its not often but often enough he aint silent and when he does tree. He has a coon. You could wipe out a population wiyh him. He is however crazy acting in the pen. Barks and paces and i hate both them things. The only reason I have him still is because hes so accurate.

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I've been with Bone and he is a little tight, but by no means silent. I'd call it honest. Opens on the ground, but not in the same place.
My female off him is semi-silent. Wide open on a scalding track, real quiet otherwise. Crazy, unbelievable accurate and independent though. We thought she might be deaf when she was younger.

Mine might be the exception, but she never makes a peep in the pen, and lays in her house all day. I have heard Bone pups are anxious in the pen though.

Ican pick a dog all apart, and she just doesn't give me any reasons not to like her.

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My bone dog is semi silent although Ivr heard him open on ground some but its not often but often enough he aint silent and when he does tree. He has a coon. You could wipe out a population wiyh him. He is however crazy acting in the pen. Barks and paces and i hate both them things. The only reason I have him still is because hes so accurate.


I have heard that, but my bone pup was fine in the kennel, not the greatest but not the worst. Mine was a little touchy on tree, I worked on it a bunch and he seemed to grow out of it. Didn't have no problems after that.

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I've seen more then my share of Bone pups, There is one on every corner around here. Local guys breed to Bone and you dont see that with a lot of dogs. I have seen them all over the place as far as mouth, looks and everything else. The thing that most all of them do have in common is they tree real live coons.

As far as heads up hunt, heck who knows. I would imagine the winner would change every night. Both are top dogs but Bone is out producing him by a long shot.

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Ive not saw many of bone pups but just going off this board. Most of em aint barking bellering idiots when you turn em loose.My buddy also has one and hes not semi silent but dont bark a whole lot. Hes littermate to mine but I think his is good in pen. His is high dollar dog. Mine is low dollar dogThey both independent big time. Mine was never trained right and Im working on some things like meeting you off the tree and going back. His knows all that. Mine may never.

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