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Any good dogs out of any semen over 20 years old?

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We're sure like Ntch LIPPERS LIP LOCK LIZZY,real track dog deluxe has coons in her trees, lipper style tree dog. Very good hunting split track, split tree, book her on her first locate and go look at it...
Bred by Jerry Beard and Tom Hopkins , trained by Ronnie Bone, and we are fortunate enough to own her

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Whether semen is 2 years old or twenty, it really doesn't matter. The age of the semen has nothing to do with the genetics. Once that egg is fertilized by frozen semen, genetics take over as if it were a live natural mating.

The only difference is the way semen is processed and stored today than what it was twenty years ago. I will say again... the age of the semen has no bearing on the quality of pups you get from a litter.

I have a seven month old male right now out of semen collected on May 21, 1995 and this pup has the same action and ability as pups I raised out of this stud twenty years ago with live breeding.

I think it is unfair to try and compare old semen with semen collected recently as the age of the semen has no bearing on the quality of pups. Until I see an independent study that tells me otherwise, I will always have the belief that the age of frozen semen has no bearing on the quality of pups your going to get from a litter. If the genetics do not align and the cross is not a good one, it's not going to matter if it's a live breeding, chilled, 2 year old frozen or even frozen semen that was found on Noah's Ark. Genetics are genetics whether they're on ice or delivered direct.

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We're sure like Ntch LIPPERS LIP LOCK LIZZY,real track dog deluxe has coons in her trees, lipper style tree dog. Very good hunting split track, split tree, book her on her first locate and go look at it...
Bred by Jerry Beard and Tom Hopkins , trained by Ronnie Bone, and we are fortunate enough to own her

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