john Duemmer
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quote: Originally posted by rthompson
Just because the eight is on doesnt mean the dog didnt babble the eight has to be applied if the dog would have picked the track up opened then no minus but the dog didnt even try. now i know what the tog did it did it again two dumps later the handler ever comented on the way the dogs mouth sounded but the dog moved 3/4 of a mile so it did not show a track it just ran down the creek. the reason the dog was minused at five minutes is because the handler wanted to call time out to deleate the strike.
You seem to be confused about what babbling is....Babbling is when a dog opens and no track is evident (your dog off the leash).
What you describe is a dog that quit its track and moved deep...(thats not babbling)
Having said that, minusing a dog for babbling is a subjective call made by the judge and in this case the handler should have questioned the call and asked for a vote, if the cast was uniformed enough about the rule to back the call then a ? to the MOHs. should overturn the call.
We all hate that a dog gets away with quitting a track, but unless the dog is caught by the 8 or comes in to the cast there is no rule that allows a judge to minus the dog.
I would add that the rule about carrying the track out is a $kc rule, UKC leaves it up to the judge but after opening 10 times, the strike call being accepted and the 8 applied a dog will either break the 8 or be minused, this is not the time to apply rule 4c.
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