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Ok I have a question for all you breeders. How would you breed after a father daughter cross to keep the traits you like without making the dogs crazy.

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I would outcross on a very similar trait dog and then take a female off that litter if she turned out and cross her back on her uncle from the father daughter cross!!

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Registered: Dec 2011
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Dogs don't go "crazy" from inbreeding. You get an intensification of the traits your family carries. So, if you DO have crazy dogs, you will get more. If you have great dogs, you will get more great dogs.

You can inbreed quite a bit with no problems IF you are willing to cull. This is how nature breeds - inbreed and cull - that is why wild animals look SO similar.

My particular line of dogs has been inbred for four generations now. My stud has the same dog as his sire, grandsire and greatgrandsire. He is larger than average, robust as hell, intelligent and fought off parvo without vet care. I don't vaccinate, as I feel the health of American dogs is getting so poor.

As to your question, it all depends on what you have around. Hopefully you didn't just breed to the sire because he was handy. Hopefully he has something you really want to double up on. If so, you can breed the pup back to him again. Or to one of his brothers. Or to his grandsire. Or to a brother. It all depends on how good the dogs are and how much you want to close up what you have.

BTW: I STRONGLY recommend health testing all breeding stock if you are going to inbreed instead of just "by guess and by golly"ing the health situation of your stock.

Best of luck with your venture.

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What have y'all had better luck with when crossing.
Father/daughter or uncle/niece?
I can breed to her uncle but I have never hunted with him but I really like her and her daddy. The only thing is a lot of people say they wouldn't want a pup that was out of father/daughter but are fine with uncle/niece.

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I know of an accidental brother/sister cross that produced a litter of coon treers...I also have heard many great things from the people doing uncle/neice crosses, although i havent had one myself..

just remember though, if your doubling up on good, your also gonna double up on the bad too.

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I would not cross father X Daughter, I have no scientific reason for not crossing that close, seems to tight for me. I would cross her to her Uncle,her Grandfather or find a nice Nephew to her and cross that way. There are closer crosses made all the time and guys will say nothing wrong with crossing that close and that's fine fine for them, just not for me. You could try it and see what happens. I would advise you to keep all the pups or place them close to you so you can watch them all and form your opinion based on percentage of litter making coon dogs. JMO. Thanks and good luck to you.

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Ok I have a question for all you breeders. How would you breed after a father daughter cross to keep the traits you like without making the dogs crazy.

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Joe is absolutely correct!

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