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Can someone tell me a good way to teach my 8 month old pup to lead any advice will be greatly appreciated thanks

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I cant take credit for this because I learned it at a Rick Smith bird dog seminar. He uses a "tie out chain" or chain gang as some call it. It is a fairly heavy chain about 20 feet long, or as long as you need it based on the number of dogs. It gets staked right down at the ground and tight. Then you attach several pieces of about 18 inch chain every 4 or 6 feet apart. Stake it in the shade and have water there for the dogs. Chain them to it {or just one} and leave them alone for a few hours. The idea is to let them yank on the chain which yanks back a little and after a while they learn to give to the lead.
You can do the same thing the way John Wick describes it in his book. For a single dog just tie them up on about a 4 foot chain staked tight and leave them alone for a while. The pup or dog will of course fight it but then realize he is not going to win. Once the dog calms down on one of these setups you can start working him on a lead.
The idea here is to not have the dog blaming you for the terrible thing around his neck that wont let go until after he realizes he has to give in. Good luck.

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A dog that has any sense can be lead broke very quick put them on lead and walk them !! I walk them up against a fence on the dog side and if it try's to get in front I cut him off going to the fence so he has to stay behind!! Should be pretty good within 20 min!! Ihis time of year also when I am walking them I pull off a branch with leaves and if they get ahead swat them in the face with the leave branch and as I said if they have any sense it won't take long!!

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Thanks I'll try anything one time

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Hook a lead to your pup, let the pup run around with the lead on, after a few minutes pick up the lead an let the pup lead you, then slowly change direction an you lead the pup, no tie outs, no jerking, no swich needed..

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Thanks for the advice

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A combination of a everything said so far works for me.

I am from the old John Wick school of things and from his information years ago I learned about teaching a dog to be tied out. I never keep mine that way but each pup I have learns it.

About a 20 tie out cable and make sure the dog can't slip the collar or that is what your teaching them. Let them fight it and they will soon learn they are controlled when on a lead.
Shade and water is important during this process. Takes maybe 15 minutes for them to learn.

This method teaches them they are under control on a lead but they do not associate you with it. Once they learn that then you associate leading them and walking while and all the pulling and tugging has been removed before you start and you can get right down to heeling.

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Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
A combination of a everything said so far works for me.

I am from the old John Wick school of things and from his information years ago I learned about teaching a dog to be tied out. I never keep mine that way but each pup I have learns it.

About a 20 tie out cable and make sure the dog can't slip the collar or that is what your teaching them. Let them fight it and they will soon learn they are controlled when on a lead.
Shade and water is important during this process. Takes maybe 15 minutes for them to learn.

This method teaches them they are under control on a lead but they do not associate you with it. Once they learn that then you associate leading them and walking while and all the pulling and tugging has been removed before you start and you can get right down to heeling.

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Originally posted by Bruce M. Conkey
A combination of a everything said so far works for me.

I am from the old John Wick school of things and from his information years ago I learned about teaching a dog to be tied out. I never keep mine that way but each pup I have learns it.

About a 20 tie out cable and make sure the dog can't slip the collar or that is what your teaching them. Let them fight it and they will soon learn they are controlled when on a lead.
Shade and water is important during this process. Takes maybe 15 minutes for them to learn.

This method teaches them they are under control on a lead but they do not associate you with it. Once they learn that then you associate leading them and walking while and all the pulling and tugging has been removed before you start and you can get right down to heeling.

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Snap your dog on leash to something - here I use the clothes line pole . Leave for a while - some jump & flip around - some don't . When the dog has calmed down , it's time to go for a walk . I snap the dog lead short (the snap on looped end to the collar & the reg snapped end also) . Some will almost have to be dragged or pulled at first - but I make them walk beside me . Pulling back if dog is out front , pulling up when lagging behind or digging it's heals in - each time I say "heal" . Stop frequently for a pat on the head . Start in the yard or other open area , then walks around house or down a fence line to keep pup where you want it & on the side you wish it to walk on . Then on to the timber ,around trees , under fences it will soon learn to go where you want to go not where it wants to . Within no time it will have slack in the lead & know your in charge .

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This could have been done a lot easier when the pup was 3/4 months old as you taught it the basic commands such as lead/load- up/down/come/back/heel-No/Good boy Etc.... .At that age the pup is smaller and not as strong and you can manipulate its reactioins a lot easier.A tie out is the simplest way with a bigger pup. Always use a short lead when trying to teach a pup to heel behind you.I tie my pups out for the first time around 12 weeks old or younger...Something I will aslo use is a homemade walkin stick that I cut from a small maple/gum bush.If I have a dog that's head strong and wants to get ahead I will twirl/spin the walking stick like a batton.After a couple times being cracked on the head most will get the message...Hope this helps...

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My hounds walk beautifully on lead in town, but if we are in the woods, they start pulling uncontrollably as soon as they get a whiff of scent, and they are even worse if I am walking with other hounds and people to the turnout point and I fall behind because I am a slow old lady. They do NOT want to be last on the track.
The easiest way to get a young dog to lead in a situation with no hunting distractions is to couple it to a hound that is already leash broke. The trained dog will set the example and the young dog will learn from it. Even if the young dog pulls, it will be pulling more against the other dog than you.
That is not helpful in a situation where both dogs are trying to pull in the same direction!
For a dog that pulls in the woods, loop the lead behind the hound's front legs with the part going to the handle in front. That will both shorten the lead, which gives you more control, and when you or the dog pulls, it knocks a little air out of his lungs, slowing him down. An old hand showed me that on his 82nd birthday, and he was able to control a pretty lively young Plott quite comfortably. My 75 lb. bear dog still pulls, but I can control him that way, even though its still a lot of work.

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