Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Medford, WI
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Why is it that in this breed (as well as others) that if it's not your dog, or your breeding, it's either mean or not worth the food it's fed?

I'm friends with many different people, many of which have different lines and it seems to every time we start talking about the dogs that are winning, they are mean or the handler is cheating to win... I personally think it's ridiculous.

As many of you know, I favor the outlaw breeding but if I find a dog that is better than what I have, you can bet your toush I'm either going to try n buy it, or try to get one bred like it. In no way am I opposed to any lines, besides the ones that I have already found out dont work for me, not saying they are bad or aren't good but they just didn't suit my needs.

What can be done to stop all this hate and, more importantly, jealousy?

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Location: jesup ga.
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Some folks are attention junkies and when it's not about them they try to make it about them . Normally they make more enemies than friends in the process so hence the lashing out

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Originally posted by RED REBELS
Why is it that in this breed (as well as others) that if it's not your dog, or your breeding, it's either mean or not worth the food it's fed?

I'm friends with many different people, many of which have different lines and it seems to every time we start talking about the dogs that are winning, they are mean or the handler is cheating to win... I personally think it's ridiculous.

As many of you know, I favor the outlaw breeding but if I find a dog that is better than what I have, you can bet your toush I'm either going to try n buy it, or try to get one bred like it. In no way am I opposed to any lines, besides the ones that I have already found out dont work for me, not saying they are bad or aren't good but they just didn't suit my needs.

What can be done to stop all this hate and, more importantly, jealousy?

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Location: gillett PA
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LIZZ & EDDY
1st I not sticking up for anyone or am I trying to bash anyone, but when I see well known people trash another persons dogs that appear, on paper , to be well bred dogs, I tend to shy away from doing business with both parties, not saying I won't do business with them , but I step back and say to myself whoa, gotta think about this, there are many who never bash others and they may have just as good of dogs but they are not --full of themselves like some who say their dogs the best.
1 I want to treat people like I want them to treat me
2 Don't ever think that you or I have the only good coondog.
3 Keep an open mind, to where you can see the other mans dog, good or bad.

Nothing turns me off more than a man bashing another man or his dogs. My late Mom always told me "if you can't say something good about somebody don't say nothing at all
HERSH

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Nt ch Gr ch HERSHS HUNTIN RED IKE
NT CH CH HERSHS HUNTIN BUDDY
GR NT CH MILLERS DIRTY RED
NT CH CH LYNN'S CREEK JULIE
GR CH HERSHS HUNTIN RED KATE
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Location: Greeneville,Tn
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to many people way over think it just like when you say there has never been a rat attack or a mojo or any of the other breed famous studs people start by saying we don't need slick tree'rs in our breed ................it's not that that people should be referencing too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its not that at all would I like to have a stud that everyone wanted a pup out of probably not that just not my cup of tea but would some others that have the time and money to pour into it I bet if they are honest they would say they do
it is a very tough breed for sure I don't know why but everyone has been real good to me and hope they know that I would and will help how I can

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Location: East central Illinois.
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This reminds me of a mistake I made many years ago: I heard negative things about a dog, so just to be safe I decided it best to stay away from that dog and anything out of it. Later on I end up hunting with the dog and found out that what I heard was a big lie. The dog and type of pups it produced were pretty much what I was looking for.

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NTCH. CH PR' SawBlade Red Reckon
NTCH. CH PR' Gher's Timber Mt. Brandy
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HERE IS WHAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL SEVERAL YRS. IN THE WALKER BREED,,,,ENGLISH BREED.

THESE GUYS MAY NOT LIKE ONE ANOTHER ((BUT)) THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO COME & BREED TO THE GUYS DOG THEY MAY NOT LIKE & THE PROFF IS OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE PRODUCED SOME DARN GOOD ONES !!!!!!! NOW IF THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THIS BREED BETWEEN 2 GUYS IF IT WILL BETTER THE BREED I WILL SAY THIS BETTER LOAD UP & GO GET U SOME OF WHAT THEY HAVE !!!!

WHAT DO U THINK HAS PUT THE WALKER & ENGLISH DOG ON THE MAP ????? LET ME TELL U AGAIN READ WHAT I POSTED IN THE ABOVE AGAIN THEY ARE SMART GO GET U SOME OF THAT GOOD STUFF PUT YOUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE TO BETTER THINGS ITS NOT THAT HARD THIS IS WHY THE WALKER DOGS & ENGLISH DOGS HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE TODAY THEY BREED FOR WINNERS FOLKS THEY DONT CARE WHO OR WHAT OWNS THE DOG THEY WANT THE BLOOD TO BETTER THERE BREED JUST LOOK @ ALL THE ((WLD. CHAMPIONS THEY HAVE PRODUCED)) !!!! IN THERE BREED AMOUNG THEMSELFS....TO MANY THINK THEY CAN PRODUCE A WLD.CH. WITH 3-5 GUYS WORKING TOGETHER WELL LET ME TELL U ((IT DONT WORK LIKE THAT BOYS)) IT TAKES ALOT OF FOLKS WORKING TOGETHER TOWARD THE SAME ((GOAL)).

ITS PLAIN TO SEE WHOS WINNING WLD. CHAMPIONSHIPS. FROM WORKING TOGETHER. WE HAVE JUST AS GOOD REDDOGS OUT THERE AS THEY DO IN THERE BREEDS. SOME MAYNOT LIKE WHAT I JUST POSTED BUT THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH NO NEED TO SUGAR COAT IT WHEN IT DONT NEED TO BE. YOU CANNOT DENIE THE TRUTH SURELY. NOT EVERYONE DOES THIS SHOE FIT.

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***HOME OF WHERE COONDOGS & TREEDOGS ARE BORN NOT MAN MADE***

***A PROVEN LINE OF DOGS THAT IS WORKING GREAT ON BEAR & COON & MT. LION HAVE PLENTY OF REFS. ON THEM YOU CAN CALL.***


********(((One More Little Dump Kennel = Daylight)))********

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!********* I THANK GOD FOR EVERYDAY I'M LIVING & MY 2nd CHANCE ON LIFE *********!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1589

Maybe the best thing to do is concentrate on the good and complement it when you see it. Ignore the bad and make no reference to it.

Negative thoughts will fill in the places where positive thoughts can thrive.

There is a pile of great people in this breed and many of which I can't wait to get to know better. The Redbone people are the best !!

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GrNiteCh Sawblade Fiddle "no.5 historical female
QuadGrCh Yellow River Red Blaze
GrNiteCh Copeland's Red Hot Clyde
GrNiteCh Stone's Midnight Red Jake
NiteCh Brights Choctaw Night Time Sissy
NiteCh Sawblade Red Reckon
NiteCh Brasee Red Penny
NiteCh Nacalus Mandolin
Yellow River Fiddle II " good reproducer"
NiteCh Krasa Sawblade Quikstuf Bone
GrNiteCh Krasa Hair Trigger Hope
GrNiteCH Locked and Loaded Jake
GrNiteCh Moonlight Woody
NiteCh Sawblade Mac Truck " Jake and Hopes' brother"
NiteCh After Dark Spark " brother to Fiddle"
NiteCh Morgan's Boone " sister to Fiddle"
NiteCh High Water June " out of Reckon"
NiteCh Sawblade Timberline Rusty
Sawblade Ribbon,


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Registered: May 2009
Location: Grant County AR
Posts: 1279

I agree with you. I found the best way to not look at the things on here that bother me is to go to my user control panel and Block the user that tends to be negative. Trust me it works and makes for way less reading when you already know you disagree with that person.. There isn't a need for folks to have to go back and forth about anything, just use the forum tools they help...

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Just do what works for you, and don't worry about what anyone else does... I haven't followed this board for over two years (until about a month ago), and this thread is a lot like many that were posted back then. Nothing has changed, and I don't think it will. The best way to deal with "that guy", is to be sure that you don't become "that guy"! :-)

Good Luck All!

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Maybe the best thing to do is concentrate on the good and complement it when you see it. Ignore the bad and make no reference to it.

Negative thoughts will fill in the places where positive thoughts can thrive.

There is a pile of great people in this breed and many of which I can't wait to get to know better. The Redbone people are the best !!

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The best way that we can deal with these things is just to measure ourselves. And we need to be a good examples to others! We need to make sure that we have good clear motives for what we do. Some should ask, why do I have redbones? Is it about me or my name? Or is it because I love the breed and I want to help improve things? Is it about helping or hurting! We also need to be praying for each other!! God's blessings as you raise and love your Reddogs!!!

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Location: Marion, Indiana
Posts: 4280

I have always thought critisizm by those who are trying to do/be better at something they are serious and passionate is a good and nessesary thing. It initiates good debate and opens the door for others who are passionate about the same thing to exchange new and differing ideas. Its the jealousy and personal attacks that ruin it for everyone. I have been working with many other people behind the scenes to improve this breed and many others have extended a helping hand to me....and I appreciate that...a lot. I don't mind the critisizm of certain aspects of our breed....it reminds all of us of the areas that we need improvement. But I think we can do that with out trashing individuals or particular dogs. Any dog who is alive now will only be improved by its owner...but dogs from crosses yet to be made may be improved by all of us by working together and sharing information and resources to help the breed as a whole by making better crosses. This board could be a lot better for the breed if everyone used it for positive conversations, idea sharing and recognition....instead of bashing, trashing, and tearing down other "redbone" people and their dogs.....

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My first 3 redbones raised from pup's were:
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Billy the Kid
Dual Gr.Ch.- PKC Ch. Outlaw Timber Girl
Dual Gr.Ch. Outlaw Scarlett Fever
(((( Current Favorites ))))
2013 AKC Ladies World Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch.- PKC Ch- AKC Ladies World Ch Ky Moonlight Breanna
Gr.Nt.Ch. - PKC Ch. Ky Moonlight Woody
Dual Grand Moonlight Deana
Dual Grand Ch.- PKC Ch. Moonlight AfterShock
Dual Grand Nighty Night Amber
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Big Time Britt
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Billy Jean
Gr.Nt.Ch-PKC Ch.-2015 PKC Red Days Champ Outlaw Cherry Bomb
Gr.Nt.Ch Outlaw Breeze
Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man (over $20.000 won in PKC & CHKC) 2019 Southern Redbone Days Overall Champion
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Outlaw Mac
Gr.Nt.Ch. Classy Cali (Heavy Outlaw bred)
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Cat Scratch Fever
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Addiction
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Overdose
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Jinx
Gr.Nt.Ch. Moonlight Banshee
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Registered: Aug 2009
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Your doing a great job, keep up the good work!!!

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