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T-Monroe
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DNA Profiling a Hound

I was just wondering how long it takes to DNA profile a hound once you recieve the DNA kit and send it back to the UKC? I ordered it today and wanted to get him performance sire nominated for next year but I am not sure if I will have enough time to do this or will I?

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Allow 6 to 8 wks they are @ the mercy of the lab . If your dog has been profiled already in another kc you can send them a photo copy of it & it was 7 dollars .

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GOOD LUCK

Sent one in months ago. No Results yet.

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I just got a profile back that took between 4-5 mos. On the good side, they produced a profile from the FIRST sample I sent in.

I know they use the same lab, but I've had to re-swab several times when I've sent them in through PKC.

One thing I know is if the KC's want to make use of DNA they need to improve this process.

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DNA

I know what your talking about. Haven't had a DNA Processed Successfully in two years. We have two nice pups we need to DNA right now,but,we just can't waste any more money. Never had any problems with DNA Until the last 2 years with UKC. I believe UKC & PKC use the same lab. AKC is a different story.

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DNA, 4 1/2 Months an still waiting!!

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monroe

If it hasn't changed all you have to do is pay your money by December 31 and you will be good to go, even if it takes till March to get the DNA processed.

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Thanks Ryan,

That is what I was wondering...

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In 2011 I nominated a dog in June and paid him up then sent the DNA in. It took until February 2012 to get the DNA back but I still got the June price. The problem you will have is with puppy papers if you have a litter due before the DNA is done then you have to wait on getting your puppy papers back. Which is no huge deal until you are close to your 6 month deadline on your nominating your pups. So if your DNA is does not work the first time you may want to get a couple extra swaps and send a couple at a time. Hope this helps.

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T-Monroe
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So a man can still have a hound nominated for the next year but if the DNA test take six months then he would really only be nominated for a few months out of that year at the same price as a full year, is this correct?

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No you are nominated for the whole year but if a female you have has pups in January and your DNA takes until march on your male dog then you will have to wait on the puppy papers until the DNA is finished.

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Re: DNA

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Originally posted by gadog1
I know what your talking about. Haven't had a DNA Processed Successfully in two years. We have two nice pups we need to DNA right now,but,we just can't waste any more money. Never had any problems with DNA Until the last 2 years with UKC. I believe UKC & PKC use the same lab. AKC is a different story.


with AKC, if you have DNA from another KC, you can send a copy of that and there is an application and it costs about $20. you will still have to swab them but I think that is to be able to match what you sent in on paper.

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Sent samples in April 2013 , received the last 1 back Sept.2013 . (5) mths. that is to long ta wait.Hope there service gets BETTER.

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DNA

First, I would like to thank you for your post on this subject.

Scidera, the lab we have used in the past, was acquired by another company, GeneSeek. Needless to say the transition has not been as smooth as was anticipated. We are diligently working with and speaking with the lab every day in order to provide you with the DNA information you have come to expect.

With that said, I want to assure you that the staff here at UKC is making every effort to provide you with the best customer service possible. I've been personally attending, e-mailing and calling the lab to ensure that we are moving this forward for you.

In fact, just this morning, I had a conversation with one of their Vice Presidents regarding the delays. They have assured me that they are working hard to provide our DNA information in a timely manner; but at this time, they are trying to get the backlog caught up. Unfortunately, UKC DNA is involved with the backlog.

The DNA information that we have received in-house has been meticulously reviewed to insure that the most accurate information is being uploaded to our system; as well as listed on your DNA certificate, adding a little more time to the delay.

I would like to thank you for your patience and understanding as we work through this transition with the lab. I assure you that we will continue to work diligently on getting this matter taken care of.

If you have questions or further concerns, please feel free to contact me at traab@ukcdogs.com and I will do my best to assist you.

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T-Monroe
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Wow That was fast...

I hear all the horror stories and was wondering how it would go with mine. Sent my hounds DNA out 2nd week of Oct. and got it back last week the 19th of Nov. I will be making him a performance sire for 2014.

Great job UKC!

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10 days that is very fast...Glad to see they have got it worked out. I know they said the lab was moving and that is why some took so long, but it must be all worked out now.

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Had terrible experince when they used MMI

After 4 inconclusive results, I paid the extra $100 to do blood work. Got the results back in 2 weeks. At that time, I swore I would never use swabs again.

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Sorry to hear that Tim, but it seems to be going much better for them now.

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What's the benefit with DNA your hound???

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What's the benefit with DNA your hound???

To prove your dogs parentage...you have to do DNA for your dog to be a Performance sire , SS sire & for puppies born out of them to be Performance & SS eligible . The females bred to those sires also have to have DNA done for their litters to be eligible.

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I don't think the females have to be DNA profiled.

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quote:
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I don't think the females have to be DNA profiled.

For SS eligible litters they do, for regular registration on litters no .

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Glad to see others are having troubles with DNA. I sent performance money and soon receive a kit and sent it back in early May. In June paid the litter up the 1st week of June at English days and never received anything so I called and they said they never received the DNA kit back so cancelled the check and sent again in July and had a rep. call and said paperwork was almost done and would I like to pay the whole litter up, so with still having 4 pups that people didn't follow-up and paid them all up. Long story short I still don't have papers to send the good folks that got them and they will be 6 months old in a few days.

The process has to get better, got to be a better solution out there.

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I had no problems with the two dogs I DNA'd, got the DNA results with first swab. Pretty sure it took a couple months thou.

Does anyone know if a dog is DNA-P and after that his other parent is DNA'd does it cost to update it to DNA-VIP?

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Ukc recommendation : up-date regisration process where the is not 2 seperate papers to send in . Have on the puppy papers if the pup is performance eligilbe w/ price listed for regular registration & performance registration include Dna fee & box for any late fees w/ price . Send the swabs out with pup papers on performance litters. So we can send it all in together on one set of papers along with the swab when the pup is registered . Just thought it would speed up the process by taking out a step , easier on us & you .

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