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Billy Beckham
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convenient order??

Rule 11. HANDLERS AND JUDGES:

10.) Passed
After rule stating: {Where dogs split up Judge will go} etc. add sentence:
If all dogs are declared treed and handled, cast may score trees in most convenient order.
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So what decides "convenient order"?

Dog A trees thru the country left handed.
Dog B trees 350 yards away right handed from handlers 15 seconds later.
Both trees expire.
its easier to score B first.

While walking to A. C trees, 400 yards in front of cast. tree expires before cast gets to A and they are closer to C than A. So do we score C first?
If we shine C's tree first, while we are shining D gets treed between C & A.
So since D is on the way do we score his tree because it closed while shining C's tree. I figure most will say its most convenient to do it that way.

So at this point Dog A got treed first and has had to tree for 45 minutes because of this rule when it should have been scored first.

I forgot its 85 outside with 92% humidity.

What if it was your dog treed first, how would you want to handle it?

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I believe the judge will make that decision because the judge is suppose to run the cast and like any judges decision, it could be overruled by a majority of the cast but short of that, the judge will decide the order.

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YEP UKC CONTINUES TO PUNISH THE LONER

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You've lost me on that. PKC has had this one forever and I dont think anyone would accuse them of punishing loaners.

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quote:
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You've lost me on that. PKC has had this one forever and I dont think anyone would accuse them of punishing loaners.


They have the option and if you take it you are leash locked.

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Re: convenient order??

quote:
Originally posted by Billy Beckham
Rule 11. HANDLERS AND JUDGES:

10.) Passed
After rule stating: {Where dogs split up Judge will go} etc. add sentence:
If all dogs are declared treed and handled, cast may score trees in most convenient order.
**************************************************
**


So what decides "convenient order"?

Dog A trees thru the country left handed.
Dog B trees 350 yards away right handed from handlers 15 seconds later.
Both trees expire.
its easier to score B first.

While walking to A. C trees, 400 yards in front of cast. tree expires before cast gets to A and they are closer to C than A. So do we score C first?
If we shine C's tree first, while we are shining D gets treed between C & A.
So since D is on the way do we score his tree because it closed while shining C's tree. I figure most will say its most convenient to do it that way.

So at this point Dog A got treed first and has had to tree for 45 minutes because of this rule when it should have been scored first.

I forgot its 85 outside with 92% humidity.

What if it was your dog treed first, how would you want to handle it?



Billy it sayes they must all be treed and handled. So in your point they were not so you would score them as they were treed.

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Really for this rule to even apply they would all have to be treed close to each other. Or am I missing something?

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Re: Re: convenient order??

quote:
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Billy it sayes they must all be treed and handled. So in your point they were not so you would score them as they were treed.


it is always good to read the rule first and comprehend what you read. Thanks for doing just that!

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Re: Re: Re: convenient order??

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it is always good to read the rule first and comprehend what you read. Thanks for doing just that!


I understood it exactly but was playing the devils advocate. I can see this one getting mis-used

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and handled ?

Don't sound to easy , actually sounds like another argument .

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"convenient order"

The way you were doing it all along but weren't suppose to.

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quote:
Originally posted by JiM
"convenient order"

The way you were doing it all along but weren't suppose to.



LoL, exactly

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quote:
Originally posted by JiM
"convenient order"

The way you were doing it all along but weren't suppose to.


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Yep.......

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
"convenient order"

The way you were doing it all along but weren't suppose to.



So right.............

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