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found the answer to the bullit shortage

talked to a guy who is a competition shooter yest.who works in a store that sells guns and ammo and he said DHS Department Of Homeland Security buys ammo in 5 year contracts. Then they get them delivered year by year and then renegotiate the contract again 5 years later. This last year they wanted all 5 years delivered in this year period at one time.

Well, well, well guess what. Just saw on Glen Beck yesterday who the buyer for DHS was and was responsible for purchasing the bullits for them. he is a radical racist who said he was from africa who was running a website called WOH War on the Horizon and said there would be killing in the streets.


The website was taken down today. saw it yesterday when it was first reported so dont go saying it was a conspiracy theory. I saw it myself. This world has gone slap crazy.

Our Government is out of control. when asked about him having this kind of website his bosses responded that if they found out it was true that would follow up on it.!!!!!!!!!

If it is true? I saw it for myself. let alone millions of others who get glen beck. You need to call and get rid of direct tv and get dish and ask for ch. 212. It is the last place on the earth right now where you will get the absolute truth.

stay informed people. I dont trust any news program, but at least with Glen you can get some sort of truth that you can make decisions on.

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Re: found the answer to the bullit shortage

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Originally posted by cripple creek
talked to a guy who is a competition shooter yest.who works in a store that sells guns and ammo and he said DHS Department Of Homeland Security buys ammo in 5 year contracts. Then they get them delivered year by year and then renegotiate the contract again 5 years later. This last year they wanted all 5 years delivered in this year period at one time.

Well, well, well guess what. Just saw on Glen Beck yesterday who the buyer for DHS was and was responsible for purchasing the bullits for them. he is a radical racist who said he was from africa who was running a website called WOH War on the Horizon and said there would be killing in the streets.


The website was taken down today. saw it yesterday when it was first reported so dont go saying it was a conspiracy theory. I saw it myself. This world has gone slap crazy.

Our Government is out of control. when asked about him having this kind of website his bosses responded that if they found out it was true that would follow up on it.!!!!!!!!!

If it is true? I saw it for myself. let alone millions of others who get glen beck. You need to call and get rid of direct tv and get dish and ask for ch. 212. It is the last place on the earth right now where you will get the absolute truth.

stay informed people. I dont trust any news program, but at least with Glen you can get some sort of truth that you can make decisions on.

Did you say this guy was buying bullets or the gov.buying bullets for him? Yep,he's crazy but that them conspiracy theorist The GOV.suppling bullits to this guy and so one...He diectly work for the pres...well that's because he's anti-white so you gotta tie he him in somewhere,how else can you get ratings and money. On the flip side his conspiracy is as bad as the Gov. taking away our guns,right,he hates Obama as much as y'all so glen failed you but send a dollar anyway.

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Re: found the answer to the bullit shortage

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Originally posted by cripple creek
talked to a guy who is a competition shooter yest.who works in a store that sells guns and ammo and he said DHS Department Of Homeland Security buys ammo in 5 year contracts. Then they get them delivered year by year and then renegotiate the contract again 5 years later. This last year they wanted all 5 years delivered in this year period at one time.

Well, well, well guess what. Just saw on Glen Beck yesterday who the buyer for DHS was and was responsible for purchasing the bullits for them. he is a radical racist who said he was from africa who was running a website called WOH War on the Horizon and said there would be killing in the streets.


The website was taken down today. saw it yesterday when it was first reported so dont go saying it was a conspiracy theory. I saw it myself. This world has gone slap crazy.

Our Government is out of control. when asked about him having this kind of website his bosses responded that if they found out it was true that would follow up on it.!!!!!!!!!

If it is true? I saw it for myself. let alone millions of others who get glen beck. You need to call and get rid of direct tv and get dish and ask for ch. 212. It is the last place on the earth right now where you will get the absolute truth.

stay informed people. I dont trust any news program, but at least with Glen
you can get some sort of truth that you can make decisions on.





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.22 shells?

lmao;
never seen any army or security agent/guard packing .22's

its called price gouging!!

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Re: .22 shells?

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lmao;
never seen any army or security agent/guard packing .22's

its called price gouging!!




......Bingo,..........The RIGHT answer.....!!!
Same thing with gas prices........!!!

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You would think these dern ammo companies could get caught up. Beats all I ever saw. Everywhere here has a limit on how much you can buy. Still can't find any. When I do find some at normal price. Think I'll buy about 5000 rds of .22 just so when the next anti gun foreign president gets elected. I can still kill some coon.

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He is a purchasing agent for DHS

I saw the website myself before they took it down. Try and pull up WOH and see what you get.
Glen also told the whole world that this administration backing the muslim brotherhood was the worst thing we could have done. You want to look at Egypt my friends and tell me who is crazy now. I heard Obama and Hillary myself on national tv multiple times that this was good for Eqypt and look what is happening now. You think Obama and Hillary owe the over 1,000 people who lost their lives in a week an apology because of their encouragement for the youth of Eqypt to rise up against the establishment and call for a democracy and what they got was a muslim dictator who took over just long enough to blow the place up into full civil war.

Take a look at Isaiah 19:1-4 and tell me what you see!!!!
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He is an acquisitions officer for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

According to Ice's site, they do purchase bullets.

http://www.ice.gov/about/offices/ma...nistration/oaq/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...white-race.html

His site is still online - http://waronthehorizon.com/

Don't believe the ammo shortage is related to this guy though.

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I haven't tried to buy any ammo lately . But when I was in the service we did some training with .22 rifles and pistols,even instinctive shooting with BB guns . To tell you the truth all I know is what you guys post about the ammo shortage .

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Fleet Farm near my house had a pretty ample supply of .22 shells last week when I was out there. They had a sign limiting to 3 boxes per customer. Didn't buy any as I have plenty.
If there really is a shortage it goes to prove the shortcomings of our current capitalist system. Seriously, how could they not ramp up production to handle demand? This was just a marketing scam pulled off on a bunch of gullible people....

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quote:
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Fleet Farm near my house had a pretty ample supply of .22 shells last week when I was out there. They had a sign limiting to 3 boxes per customer. Didn't buy any as I have plenty.
If there really is a shortage it goes to prove the shortcomings of our current capitalist system. Seriously, how could they not ramp up production to handle demand? This was just a marketing scam pulled off on a bunch of gullible people....

100%,scam!

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Re: .22 shells?

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lmao;
never seen any army or security agent/guard packing .22's

its called price gouging!!




You think it might be possible that their machines have interchangeable dies so they can run whatever shell they have orders for?
Is it possible that most of their machines are running something other than 22's?
Naw , couldn't be that ! LOL

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I don't see how its a scam really. I mean the prices in stores have not went up. Yes their really is a shortage. Look in every store in Ga lol.. Look at midsouth shooting supply or anywhere else you can find. No. 22 ammo. Most 9mm is hard to find also. 223 you can forget that. Along with any other rifle caliber like a ar-15. 308 ain't many of them either.

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another point!

so homeland security{govt.} is buying up ALL .22 shells?
lmao....that don't add up?
cci,remington,winchester,hornaday,etc,etc,
they all shoot different!!
when the govt. buys or has something made,they go with 1 company.
there is a company near me that makes steering shafts for military vehicles.have been doing it for years!

there is a big 'scare' going on.there making big bucks from it.

just like when theres a hurricane.gas prices go up.even though the usa has enough stored to last 10 years if we stopped getting oil today!!

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Re: Re: .22 shells?

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You think it might be possible that their machines have interchangeable dies so they can run whatever shell they have orders for?
Is it possible that most of their machines are running something other than 22's?
Naw , couldn't be that ! LOL



There is your answer. It would be cost prohibitive to purchase new lines and train new people to only have this shortage for a year or so. Most likely would take that long to get set up.

If this was done to have price gouging, it's a funny way to do it as although some calibers are hard to find I have bought 22 Mag shells a couple of weeks ago for the same price I got them foe 2 years ago the last time $15 a box. 243 shells $21 a box same as around 5 years ago last time I needed some. Seen a bunch of other calibers that were the same price as before that I didn't need as I have enough. Only difference I've found is some calibers are harder to find and usually you can only buy 2 boxes at one time. I did go to a gun show where they were selling ammo for about 2 or 3 times higher then in the stores. Didn't see many sales though.

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quote:
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I don't see how its a scam really. I mean the prices in stores have not went up. Yes their really is a shortage. Look in every store in Ga lol.. Look at midsouth shooting supply or anywhere else you can find. No. 22 ammo. Most 9mm is hard to find also. 223 you can forget that. Along with any other rifle caliber like a ar-15. 308 ain't many of them either.


The prices in the stores sure have gone up around here. A couple years ago i bought a milk carton full of federals 500rds. for 22 dollars, I just bought a brick of 500 for 80 dollars, thats about a 400% increase in 2 years.

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The prices in the stores sure have gone up around here. A couple years ago i bought a milk carton full of federals 500rds. for 22 dollars, I just bought a brick of 500 for 80 dollars, thats about a 400% increase in 2 years.
Ain't went up here like that. I bought a box of 50 the other day. Cause that was the limit. 2.08

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Sounds to me locals gouging customers, because it doesn't sound to me that their ammo suppliers are charging them any more. I bought some ammo from Fleet and Farm and some from Walmart for the same price I paid before the shortage I don't think that they are selling for a loss.

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Ain't went up here like that. I bought a box of 50 the other day. Cause that was the limit. 2.08


Huntin buddy bought a box of 50 Cbs. the other day 13.00, part of it could be this idiot run state that i live in has got us going through a background check to buy ammo.

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Yall have to have a background check to buy ammo??

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