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dbbishop
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Differences???

What is the main differences In BMC and OMC dog I'm not looking for trash talk just serious answers.

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They have different origins and popularity levels.
OMC dogs were developed in the mountain regions of the south and were bred almost exclusivly for squirrel & coon.

BMC dogs had their origins primarily in the deep south and have a more diverse background in their devolpment. Some family lines were bred for squirrel & coon and some were bred for cows & hogs.
There is enough difference between the BMC tree dogs and stock dogs that they should be considered separate breeds.

The difference between Tree bred BMCs and OMCs is about equivalent of the difference between a Walker and English coonhound. Basically they do the same job and can compeet at the same level, just that one breed is vastly more popular than the other.

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Thanks for the reply. Are the BMC generally bigger than OMC dogs

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In my experience and observation...

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Thanks for the reply. Are the BMC generally bigger than OMC dogs


..........Yes, BMC's are generally larger dogs.

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Thats what I thought

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It depends on what line they come from but in general BMCs are going to be slightly larger, but not always.

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I know this is a matter of opinion but what line seems to be the most popular and productive

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Streak bred OMC

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Sorry I meant in BMC

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Ladner bred BMCs are the most popular overall for the breed.

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Re: In my experience and observation...

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..........Yes, BMC's are generally larger dogs.

Mark.

Large feist are generally larger than the strain of OMC you hunt! LOL Speak for yourself.

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Re: Re: In my experience and observation...

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Large feist are generally larger than the strain of OMC you hunt! LOL Speak for yourself.


LIAR! Dorton, is that you?

Ha!

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Re: Re: Re: In my experience and observation...

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Ha!

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I like the medium sized OMC's around 60-65# LOL



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BMC vs OMC

I have a quick question, not seen to many BMC's around here but are they more open on track compared to the OMC who would be more silent.

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That's what I have seen the differents is in the Stevens too, they are normally open on track right? Or was that just the dog I was huntin with?

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Most tree bred BMCs will be stone silent on the ground.

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Re: BMC vs OMC

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I have a quick question, not seen to many BMC's around here but are they more open on track compared to the OMC who would be mo
re silent.

I had a Ladner bred BMC a few yrs. back and he was silent on track and had a loud chop on the tree.

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Ringo

This is the Ladner dog I got form LH directly out of his ole Trap dog. This was in the late 80's!!

Trap was a heck of a coon dog and sq dog as was Ringo. They were wide open of coon tracks and silent on squirrels as were most of LH's dogs back when I hunted with him and Curtis. Curtis's Rambo dog was also open on coon.

Ringo was one of the most accurate dogs I have owned or hunted with sq or coon!

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Re: Re: Re: In my experience and observation...

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LIAR! Dorton, is that you?

Ha!

Mark.


mark like the ones he can reg. o m c b a & in fiest reg. as well
still haven't figured that one out.

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what about the black & or brindle bmc.I know yellow has always
been the favorite color.

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quote:
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what about the black & or brindle bmc.I know yellow has always
been the favorite color.



Some people are stuck on color and from a marketing stand point yeller sells.

Then there's the other camp that believes pretty is as pretty does and color is the last thing on our minds when it comes to breeding tree dogs.

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Some people are stuck on color and from a marketing stand point yeller sells.

Then there's the other camp that believes pretty is as pretty does and color is the last thing on our minds when it comes to breeding tree dogs.



Pretty is as pretty does!

My TBMC, Lulu, is the smallest Cur (of any line/breed) I've ever hunted with...right around 17" and may go 30lbs soaking wet at hunting weight. Has a faint white blaze on her muzzle with a solid white spot on her neck, white on feet and chest. Her mother come from TREE'EM...she does not look like the average BMC...but, she is hands down the most NATURAL STAY PUT treedog I've ever started.

Again, pretty is as pretty does!

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Re: Re: Re: In my experience and observation...

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LIAR! Dorton, is that you?

Ha!

Mark.



Why you got drag me into this? But Tim is right....Mark is the only person that has OMC's that are also ATFA reg. as well......LOL

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Re: Re: Re: Re: In my experience and observation...

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mark like the ones he can reg. o m c b a & in fiest reg. as well
still haven't figured that one out.



You quit drinkin' whiskey out of your saucer and maybe you'll get it figured out one day........Ha!

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got to measure my year old OMC pup.....she just might make the ATFA standard.....

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