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hiball1
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Briar Creek hounds

What are the good and the bad out of the briar creek line of dogs? Mouth,accuracy,closed or open on track ect......any info would greatly be appreciated. What's yalls opinion on line breeding briar creek dogs?????? Looking forward to yalls input ....thanks!!!!

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I have hunted with a lot of Briar Creek dogs and I sometime outcross my strain with Briar Creek dogs. I have definate opinions of the line and I have hunted with several of Jim's dogs. I like them well enough to outcross with them, something I would not do with a lot of strains of English. They are good in the Midwest.

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redman555
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I have a female out of briar creek Dr. Evil she is dead silent on track triple chop locate a good tree dog fairly accurate

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John Sisley
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I raised and trained two, one out of Huck a Buck and one out of Zeb. The one out of Huck a Buck I still have and I think enough of him that I will bury him when I am done with him. He was a natural, has a good nose and very accurate. Mouth is only average but carries well. Not a perfect dog by any means but I sure like him, he is the best dog I have ever owned.


The one out of Zeb was pretty much dead silent. He has a big mouth and is an above average dog. I gave him to a friend that needed a dog and he likes him.


I would have no objection to raising another Briar Creek dog, If you are considering line breeding or getting one I say go for it, I think you will be glad you did.

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I hunted with Huckabuck and I remember Jim sitting on my couch asking my opinion on whether he should buy him back or not (his name didn't say Briar Creek). Jim took my advise, bought Huck back and the rest is history (look at the English Historical Reproducer's List). Someone could ask Dave Minson on the litter Huck came out of, Dave told me some of them were silent. Cabin Creek Rowdy wasn't silent, I have video proof of it.

The last litter of English pups I raised were out of Zeb. One was tight, the other opens real well. I reckon if I get time today, I will post videos of both dogs. I believe they will impress the hard to impress.

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I just purchased a pup out of Chrome and a half sister to Chrome (both are out of Zeb)and I'm just curious as to know what y'all thought. I talked to Jim Ridge and he seemed to like it. I can think of several half brother x sister crosses that have worked very well!!!! Thanks for the input!!!!!

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I have a nice young female, going on three years old now...out of briar creek bandit, which should be a half brother to zeb...really nice young hound, can be very independent at times, but will back other dogs when correct as well...opens well on track when she gets it first, can be pouty on track if anthor dog opens first...has an average volume tree mouth...good brains, good stay put tree dog, and the accuracy is well above average....

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I have hunted against Jim & Chris's line of dogs sense the mid 90's and they do and will win in competition. I bought a female of Zeb really liked her started young head full of sense, small dog, pretty tight on ground unless it was super hot track. Sold her for a good price or she would still be here. The reason I bought her I was tired of getting butt spanked in the hunts by Briar Creek dogs.......

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Randy Howard
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A little Briar creek Blood, Bottom

I have known Jim for quite sometime, has always had some nice hounds and Good to deal with, honest man.
Here a pic of my 17mo. Redtick tonight with his daddy Big'n with the meat, this young dog was treeing squirrels at 5-6mo's by himself and having them, he's a pleasure to hunt, good handle, brains and desire, and usually fairly accurate and gettin better, and doesn't need help doing it..

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The line of briar creek that I have hunted with goes back to briar creek Louie and IMO opinion they are medium nosed and good on the tree and very well mannered dogs both in the box and in the yard at the tree. She is a speed demon for sure I have yet to find a dog that can drive a track the way she does. good on tree I wouldn't call her a hard tree as i say a hard tree dog is belly on tree trying to climb she will be right there normaly a couple feet away. i have fun with mine and run mostly bear with a few cat in there as well also a briar creek dog by the name of Icon just won southern English days and cleaned house while he was down there 1550 two night total.

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MikeR
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I've owned several BC hounds and have hunted with quite a few others have owned.

I liked the older generation BC dogs like Rowdy & Huck a Buck much better than the newer generation BC dogs.

Zeb, Rat and Dr. Evil tend to produce offspring that are pretty tight mouthed or silent and from what I've seen tend to start much later than a lot of lines. Not my style of dog.

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